UFO hearings – updates: Whistleblower asked if anyone was ‘murdered’ as part of government alien cover-up

Pentagon whistleblowers shared explosive claims of alien technology defying laws of physics and pushback from military leadership against those reporting such sightings in a House Oversight Committee hearing on Wednesday.

Three witnesses took part in the hearing – David Grusch, a former intelligence official and whistleblower who said last month that the US has “intact and partially intact” alien vehicles, David Fravor, an ex-Navy commander who reported seeing an object flying across the sky during a 2004 training mission, and Ryan Graves, a retired Navy pilot who claims he spotted unidentified aerial phenomena off the Atlantic coast “every day for at least a couple years”.

Mr Grusch claimed individuals have been injured while working on reverse engineering UFOs, but he said he couldn’t get into specifics of how that happened, adding that non-human “biologics” were found along with recovered crafts.

At one point, Congressman Tim Burchett asked Mr Grusch if anyone had been “murdered” as part of government efforts to cover-up information.

“I have to be careful asking [sic] that question,” he responded, citing an investigation into whether or not he was the subject of retaliatory action for whistleblowing. “I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.”

Key Points

• ‘There’s something profound happening on our planet that we do not understand’

• Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien adventure. Now back on tour, his UFO mission is taking off in Congress

• ‘Welcome to the most exciting subcommittee in Congress this week'

• Grusch says the U.S. likely aware of ‘non-human’ activity since 1930s

Several hundred new UFO reports to Pentagon

Wednesday 26 July 2023 20:00 , AP

Pentagon officials in December said they had received “several hundreds” of new reports since launching a renewed effort to investigate reports of UFOs.

At that point, “we have not seen anything, and we’re still very early on, that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin,” said Ronald Moultrie, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and security. “Any unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to safety.”

Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien adventure. Now back on tour, his UFO mission is taking off in Congress

Wednesday 26 July 2023 20:13 , Sheila Flynn

The onstage banter from the Blink-182 boys – now middle-aged fathers – has barely changed in a quarter-century. Still steeped in SoCal skater style and jack-this-job attitude, the band kicked off a 2023 tour in May, interspersing dude jokes and high school humour with the pop-punk anthems that their devoted fan base grew up with. There’s a tinge of nostalgia to the wistful immaturity both on stage and in the crowd as the Blink trio – and many of their elder millennial fans – sing along to the same lyrics with the knowledge that everything, everywhere, is different.

Because this tour is significant in more ways than one. The band is travelling with families in tow, and they’re travelling not by Warped bus but by private jet – aside from Travis Barker, who opts for other transportation after surviving a deadly plane crash in 2008. The drummer has garnered perhaps the most headlines from this recent rash of performances, given his marriage to Kourtney Kardashian and her pregnancy announcement at a Blink-182 show last month – with a handwritten sign, no less.

Mr Barker and vocalist/guitarist Mark Hoppus reunited for this tour with band co-founder Tom DeLonge after his latest hiatus; the 47-year-old has become nearly as well known for his exploration of the extraterrestrial as he is for his nasal vocals and playfully juvenile lyrics. And there are times during Blink-182 shows when Hoppus tells the crowd: “Tom was right.”

Read more:

EXCLUSIVE: Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien mission. Now it’s taking off

‘Am I dreaming?'

Wednesday 26 July 2023 20:30 , Gustaf Kilander

‘There’s something profound happening on our planet that we do not understand’

Wednesday 26 July 2023 21:00 , Gustaf Kilander

How ex-Blink 182 member Tom DeLonge helped shine a light on UFO encounters

Wednesday 26 July 2023 21:30 , Oliver O'Connell

With a declassified report due to be handed over to the Senate Intelligence Committee in June concerning what the Pentagon knows about unidentified aerial phenomena — more commonly known as unidentified flying objects — it might surprise some to know that one of the key players in the journey to the US military acknowledging that something is out there was once the guitarist and vocalist for pop-punk band Blink 182.

Tom DeLonge, known to most through his multiplatinum 1999 album Enema of the State, is the co-founder and chairman of the board of To The Stars... Academy of Arts & Science.

The group collects documents and physical materials from public and private sources relating to unidentified aerial phenomena and consists of former officials from the Pentagon and CIA as well as specialists in fields of science from physics to biomedical research.

At its 2017 launch event, the group announced it would provide never-before-released footage of the phenomena from real US government sources.

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How ex-Blink 182 member Tom DeLonge helped shine a light on UFO encounters

Blink-182 member shares reaction to UFO hearing

Wednesday 26 July 2023 22:00 , Gustaf Kilander

‘So the U.S. government straight up has dead aliens in its possession?'

Wednesday 26 July 2023 22:45 , Gustaf Kilander

Matt Fuller of The Daily Beast shared his reaction to the testimony alleging that the US government is in possession of non-human “biologics” recovered from UFOs.

Map showing vast majority of UFO sightings recorded in US and UK

Wednesday 26 July 2023 23:30 , Gustaf Kilander

Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien adventure. Now back on tour, his UFO mission is taking off in Congress

Thursday 27 July 2023 00:15 , Sheila Flynn

The onstage banter from the Blink-182 boys – now middle-aged fathers – has barely changed in a quarter-century. Still steeped in SoCal skater style and jack-this-job attitude, the band kicked off a 2023 tour in May, interspersing dude jokes and high school humour with the pop-punk anthems that their devoted fan base grew up with. There’s a tinge of nostalgia to the wistful immaturity both on stage and in the crowd as the Blink trio – and many of their elder millennial fans – sing along to the same lyrics with the knowledge that everything, everywhere, is different.

Because this tour is significant in more ways than one. The band is travelling with families in tow, and they’re travelling not by Warped bus but by private jet – aside from Travis Barker, who opts for other transportation after surviving a deadly plane crash in 2008. The drummer has garnered perhaps the most headlines from this recent rash of performances, given his marriage to Kourtney Kardashian and her pregnancy announcement at a Blink-182 show last month – with a handwritten sign, no less.

Mr Barker and vocalist/guitarist Mark Hoppus reunited for this tour with band co-founder Tom DeLonge after his latest hiatus; the 47-year-old has become nearly as well known for his exploration of the extraterrestrial as he is for his nasal vocals and playfully juvenile lyrics. And there are times during Blink-182 shows when Hoppus tells the crowd: “Tom was right.”

Read more:

EXCLUSIVE: Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien mission. Now it’s taking off

VIDEO: UFO witness says he saw something 'very disturbing' during historic hearing

Thursday 27 July 2023 01:00 , The Independent

Congressman asks UFO whistleblower if anyone has been ‘murdered’ to maintain alleged coverup

Thursday 27 July 2023 01:45 , Graig Graziosi

Congressman Tim Burchett asked a government whistleblower whether he believes anyone has been “murdered” in an effort to cover up the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) during a House Subcommittee on National Security.

David Grusch, a former intelligence officer who claims the US has retrieved crashed UAPs and is reverse engineering them, was among three witnesses who spoke to congressional leaders on Wednesday during the subcommittee hearing.

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Congressman asks UFO whistleblower if anyone has been ‘murdered’ to maintain coverup

Whistleblower refers to alleged intimidation as ‘administrative terrorism'

Thursday 27 July 2023 02:30 , Graig Graziosi

Mr Grusch, who described himself as a whistleblower, said during the hearing that he was the subject of retaliation for his decision to go public with his claims.

During the hearing, Mr Burchett – who laboriously explained that the “Tic Tac” video showing a smooth, white aerial object, was not named for the “Chinese Communist Party app” TikTok — lamented that he could not secure a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF) to discuss certain sensitive topics.

He then asked Mr Grusch if anyone had been harmed to maintain the alleged coverup.

“Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured in efforts to cover-up or conceal these extra-terrestrial technologies,” Mr Burchett asked.

“Yes,” Mr Grush replied. “Personally.”

Mr Burchett then asked, “has anyone been murdered?”

Mr Grusch hesitated for a moment before saying “I have to be careful asking [sic] that question,” he said, citing a current investigation into whether or not he was the subject of retaliatory action for whistleblowing. “I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.”

Later, when Congressman Jamie Raskin asked him about retaliation, Mr Grusch said he was aware of “active planned reprisal” coming from “leadership at my previous organisation.”

He referred to the alleged intimidation as “administrative terrorism.”

Mr Grusch has not provided concrete evidence for any of his claims.

VIDEO: Congressman Asks Ufo Whistleblower If Anyone Has Been ‘Murdered’ Over Alleged Coverup

Thursday 27 July 2023 03:15 , The Independent

‘The stigma attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security'

Thursday 27 July 2023 04:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Ryan Graves, a retired Navy pilot who appeared on CBS’s 60 Minutes in 2021 saying that he had spotted unidentified aerial phenomena off the Atlantic coast “every day for at least a couple years”, said in his opening statement that “I would like to highlight three critical issues that demand our action as we convene here – UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly under-reported. These sightings are not rare or isolated. They are routine, military aircrew and commercial pilots – trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification, are frequently witnessing these phenomena”.

“The stigma attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security. It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions and discourages witnesses. It is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony,” he added. “Parts of our government are aware of more about UAP than they let on by excessive classification practices to keep crucial information hidden since 2021. All UAP videos are classified as secret or above this level of secrecy, [which] not only impedes our understanding but fuels speculation and mistrust.”

VIDEO: Whistleblower claims US has recovered ‘non-human’ remains

Thursday 27 July 2023 05:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Whistleblower claims US has ‘multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program'

Thursday 27 July 2023 06:00 , Gustaf Kilander

David Grusch, a former intelligence official and whistleblower who said last month that the US has “intact and partially intact” alien vehicles, said during his opening statement that “due to my extensive executive level intelligence support duties, I was cleared to literally all relevant compartments and in a position of extreme trust both of my military and civilian capacities. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it”.

“I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple inspectors general and in effect become a whistleblower. As you know, I’ve suffered retaliation for my decision. But I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of increased transparency,” he added.

VIDEO: House holds hearing on UFO transparency

Thursday 27 July 2023 07:00 , Gustaf Kilander

‘Tic tac’ object technology ‘far superior to anything that we had at the time, have today or looking to develop’

Thursday 27 July 2023 08:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Commander Farvor said during his opening statement: “I’d like to say that the tic tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had at the time, have today or looking to develop in the next 10 years. If we in fact have programs that possess this technology it needs to have oversight from those people that the citizens of this country elected in office to represent what is best for the United States and best for the citizens.”

‘Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?'

Thursday 27 July 2023 09:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Asked “do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?” Mr Grusch said: “Absolutely – based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.”

Asked where they are, he added: “I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the inspector general ... I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General.”

Objects detected ‘where all operations Navy operations are being conducted'

Thursday 27 July 2023 10:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Mr Graves said that “Since the events initially occurred, I’ve learned that the objects have been detected essentially where all operations Navy operations are being conducted across the world”.

Asked about what the objects looked like, Mr Graves “We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere ... where the apex or tips of the cube were touching the inside of that sphere. And that was primarily what was being reported when we were able to gain a visual tally of these objects that occurred over almost eight years. And as far as I know, is still occurring”.

‘Colleagues of mine were brutally administratively attacked’

Thursday 27 July 2023 11:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Mr Grusch said, “I do have knowledge of active planned reprisal activity against myself and other colleagues”.

“There were certain colleagues of mine that were brutally administratively attacked. It actually makes me very upset as a leader to see that happen to other co-workers and actually superiors of mine in the last three years,” he added.

“How do you account for that response? That seems like a bizarre response,” Maryland Democrat Jamie Raskin asked.

“I call it administrative terrorism. That’s in their quiver or tool in the toolbox to silence people especially the career government servants who care about their career, care about their clearance, their reputation, to climb the ladder, and when you threaten that flow, that career path, a lot of people back off, but I’m here to represent those people,” Mr Groush said.

‘So the U.S. government straight up has dead aliens in its possession?'

Thursday 27 July 2023 12:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Matt Fuller of The Daily Beast shared his reaction to the testimony alleging that the US government is in possession of non-human “biologics” recovered from UFOs.

VIDEO: US veterans have knowledge of UFOs existing

Thursday 27 July 2023 13:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien adventure. Now back on tour, his UFO mission is taking off in Congress

Thursday 27 July 2023 14:00 , Sheila Flynn

The onstage banter from the Blink-182 boys – now middle-aged fathers – has barely changed in a quarter-century. Still steeped in SoCal skater style and jack-this-job attitude, the band kicked off a 2023 tour in May, interspersing dude jokes and high school humour with the pop-punk anthems that their devoted fan base grew up with. There’s a tinge of nostalgia to the wistful immaturity both on stage and in the crowd as the Blink trio – and many of their elder millennial fans – sing along to the same lyrics with the knowledge that everything, everywhere, is different.

Because this tour is significant in more ways than one. The band is travelling with families in tow, and they’re travelling not by Warped bus but by private jet – aside from Travis Barker, who opts for other transportation after surviving a deadly plane crash in 2008. The drummer has garnered perhaps the most headlines from this recent rash of performances, given his marriage to Kourtney Kardashian and her pregnancy announcement at a Blink-182 show last month – with a handwritten sign, no less.

Mr Barker and vocalist/guitarist Mark Hoppus reunited for this tour with band co-founder Tom DeLonge after his latest hiatus; the 47-year-old has become nearly as well known for his exploration of the extraterrestrial as he is for his nasal vocals and playfully juvenile lyrics. And there are times during Blink-182 shows when Hoppus tells the crowd: “Tom was right.”

Read more:

EXCLUSIVE: Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 for an alien mission. Now it’s taking off

VOICES: Of course UFOs exist – one nearly landed on my car

Thursday 27 July 2023 15:00 , Charlotte Cripps

Apparently, UFOs and extraterrestrial life is an “open secret” in the US military. Three whistleblowers have claimed the US is “hiding evidence of UFOs that “defy physics as we know it”.

The hearing in Congress that took place this week aims to uncover “the biggest cover-up in history”. “We’re not bringing little green men or flying saucers into the hearing – sorry to disappoint about half y’all – we’re just going to get to the facts,” said representative Tim Burchett in the opening statements.

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Of course UFOs exist – one nearly landed on my car

Explosive claims, impossible craft and questions of ‘murder’: House UFO hearing probes alleged alien technology defying laws of physics

Thursday 27 July 2023 16:00 , Graig Graziosi

Aliens and UFOs were the topic du jour in Washington DC as the House Subcommittee on National Defense met to hear testimony from three men — two Navy pilots and one former intelligence officer — who are warning that the skies may not be as safe as Americans previously thought.

While the hearing was not specifically probing whether or not aliens have visited Earth — instead being ostensibly focused on the alleged prevalence of unidentified aerial objects over US skies — the discussion of extraterrestrials and “non-human biologics” no less permeated the discussion.

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House UFO hearing probes claims of physics defying technology

VIDEO: ‘Non-human’ biological material from UFO recovered, claims former US intelligence officer

Thursday 27 July 2023 17:00 , Gustaf.Kilander

A former US intelligence officer has claimed the US government recovered a crashed UFO containing “non-human” biological material.

Retired US Air Force major David Grusch made the claims at the House Oversight Committee hearing held on Wednesday.

Congresswoman Nancy Mace asked Grusch if the bodies found on the crashed aircraft were human or non-human.

Grusch replies: “Non-human and that was the assesment of people which are acknowledged on the programme I talked to and that who are currently still on the programme.”

VOICES: We needed to hear what was said in the UFO hearing

Thursday 27 July 2023 18:00 , Skylar Baker-Jordan

In 2010, the late Stephen Hawking issued a stark warning for humanity: do not try contacting extraterrestrial life. “If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn’t turn out well for the Native Americans,” he cautioned. Given what we know about humanity and our propensity for colonizing and destroying civilizations other than (and, frankly, including) our own, there is no reason to believe alien beings would come in peace. Best keep to ourselves.

Do I believe ET has crash-landed looking for Reese’s Pieces? No. If he had, surely Donald Trump would have blabbed long ago. Yet the Congressional hearings on unidentified ariel phenomena (UAPs) – more commonly known as unidentified flying objects (UFOs) – was not an exercise in the absurd. Robert Garcia, a Democratic Representative from California, put it best when he said that “UAPs, whatever they be, may pose a serious threat to our military and our civilian aircraft, and that must be understood. We should encourage more reporting, not less on UAPs. The more we understand, the safer we will be.”

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We needed to hear what was said in the UFO hearing | Opinion

Blink-182’s Tom DeLonge on his mission to prove ‘Aliens Exist’, a newfound UFO fandom - and the Kardashians

Thursday 27 July 2023 19:00 , Sheila Flynn

The onstage banter from the Blink-182 boys – now middle-aged fathers – has barely changed in a quarter-century. Still steeped in SoCal skater style and jack-this-job attitude, the band kicked off a 2023 tour in May, interspersing dude jokes and high school humour with the pop-punk anthems that their devoted fan base grew up with. There’s a tinge of nostalgia to the wistful immaturity both on stage and in the crowd as the Blink trio – and many of their elder millennial fans – sing along to the same lyrics with the knowledge that everything, everywhere, is different.

Because this tour is significant in more ways than one. The band is travelling with families in tow, and they’re travelling not by Warped bus but by private jet – aside from Travis Barker, who opts for other transportation after surviving a deadly plane crash in 2008. The drummer has garnered perhaps the most headlines from this recent rash of performances, given his marriage to Kourtney Kardashian and her pregnancy announcement at a Blink-182 show last month – with a handwritten sign, no less.

Read more:

Blink-182’s Tom DeLonge on his mission to prove ‘Aliens Exist’ - and the Kardashians

Professor Brian Cox weighs in on existence of UFOs after senate hearing

Thursday 27 July 2023 20:00 , Ellie Iorizzo

Professor Brian Cox has said extraordinary claims about the existence of aliens were made in a US senate hearing, but were not backed up by “extraordinary evidence”.

US lawmakers heard first-hand accounts of unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings from former members of the military on Wednesday in a hearing to explore what the US Government knows about the existence of UFOs.

Retired Major David Grusch told Congress the US is concealing a long-standing programme that retrieves and reverse-engineers UFOs and that the US likely has been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s.

The Pentagon has denied Mr Grusch’s claims of a cover-up.

On Thursday, Cox, a professor of particle physics at the University of Manchester and a broadcaster, tweeted: “I keep being asked what I make of the UFO thing in Congress yesterday, so here it is.

“I watched a few clips and saw some people who seemed to believe stuff saying extraordinary things without presenting extraordinary evidence.”

Cox said he has nothing more to say than “it would be great if true”.

The 55-year-old added: “It would take a bit of the pressure off our civilisation if we weren’t the only means within the Milky Way by which the Universe understands itself.

“Sadly, as of today, I still feel that pressure, so can we perhaps focus on not messing our world up rather than hoping that, to paraphrase Sagan, someone will float down to save us from ourselves.”

National Security Council spokesperson says ‘these phenomena have impacted military training’

Thursday 27 July 2023 20:30 , Gustaf Kilander

Map showing vast majority of UFO sightings recorded in US and UK

Thursday 27 July 2023 21:00 , Gustaf Kilander

VIDEO: UFO witness says he saw something 'very disturbing' during historic hearing

Thursday 27 July 2023 22:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Congressman asks UFO whistleblower if anyone has been ‘murdered’ to maintain alleged coverup

Thursday 27 July 2023 23:00 , Graig Graziosi

Congressman Tim Burchett asked a government whistleblower whether he believes anyone has been “murdered” in an effort to cover up the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) during a House Subcommittee on National Security.

David Grusch, a former intelligence officer who claims the US has retrieved crashed UAPs and is reverse engineering them, was among three witnesses who spoke to congressional leaders on Wednesday during the subcommittee hearing.

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Congressman asks UFO whistleblower if anyone has been ‘murdered’ to maintain coverup

Whistleblower refers to alleged intimidation as ‘administrative terrorism'

Friday 28 July 2023 00:00 , Graig Graziosi

Mr Grusch, who described himself as a whistleblower, said during the hearing that he was the subject of retaliation for his decision to go public with his claims.

During the hearing, Mr Burchett – who laboriously explained that the “Tic Tac” video showing a smooth, white aerial object, was not named for the “Chinese Communist Party app” TikTok — lamented that he could not secure a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF) to discuss certain sensitive topics.

He then asked Mr Grusch if anyone had been harmed to maintain the alleged coverup.

“Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured in efforts to cover-up or conceal these extra-terrestrial technologies,” Mr Burchett asked.

“Yes,” Mr Grush replied. “Personally.”

Mr Burchett then asked, “has anyone been murdered?”

Mr Grusch hesitated for a moment before saying “I have to be careful asking [sic] that question,” he said, citing a current investigation into whether or not he was the subject of retaliatory action for whistleblowing. “I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities.”

Later, when Congressman Jamie Raskin asked him about retaliation, Mr Grusch said he was aware of “active planned reprisal” coming from “leadership at my previous organisation.”

He referred to the alleged intimidation as “administrative terrorism.”

Mr Grusch has not provided concrete evidence for any of his claims.

VIDEO: Congressman Asks Ufo Whistleblower If Anyone Has Been ‘Murdered’ Over Alleged Coverup

01:00 , Gustaf Kilander

‘The stigma attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security'

02:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Ryan Graves, a retired Navy pilot who appeared on CBS’s 60 Minutes in 2021 saying that he had spotted unidentified aerial phenomena off the Atlantic coast “every day for at least a couple years”, said in his opening statement that “I would like to highlight three critical issues that demand our action as we convene here – UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly under-reported. These sightings are not rare or isolated. They are routine, military aircrew and commercial pilots – trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification, are frequently witnessing these phenomena”.

“The stigma attached to UAP is real and powerful and challenges national security. It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions and discourages witnesses. It is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony,” he added. “Parts of our government are aware of more about UAP than they let on by excessive classification practices to keep crucial information hidden since 2021. All UAP videos are classified as secret or above this level of secrecy, [which] not only impedes our understanding but fuels speculation and mistrust.”

Whistleblower claims US has ‘multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program'

03:00 , Gustaf Kilander

David Grusch, a former intelligence official and whistleblower who said last month that the US has “intact and partially intact” alien vehicles, said during his opening statement that “due to my extensive executive level intelligence support duties, I was cleared to literally all relevant compartments and in a position of extreme trust both of my military and civilian capacities. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it”.

“I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple inspectors general and in effect become a whistleblower. As you know, I’ve suffered retaliation for my decision. But I am hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of increased transparency,” he added.

‘Tic tac’ object technology ‘far superior to anything that we had at the time, have today or looking to develop’

04:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Commander Farvor said during his opening statement: “I’d like to say that the tic tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had at the time, have today or looking to develop in the next 10 years. If we in fact have programs that possess this technology it needs to have oversight from those people that the citizens of this country elected in office to represent what is best for the United States and best for the citizens.”

‘Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?'

05:00 , Gustaf Kilander

Asked “do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?” Mr Grusch said: “Absolutely – based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.”

Asked where they are, he added: “I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the inspector general ... I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General.”