James Crumbley involuntary manslaughter trial, Day 2: Watch live

Jurors will hear evidence for a second day in the involuntary manslaughter trial of James Crumbley, father of the Oxford High School shooter.

The parents, whose then-15-year-old son murdered four students and injured six students and teacher on Nov. 30, 2021, are the first in America to face criminal accountability for a child's school shooting. The mother, Jennifer Crumbley, was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter last month and faces up to 15 years in prison when she's sentenced April 9.

The shooter, Ethan Crumbley, pleaded guilty and is serving life in prison without the possibility of parole. He carried out his rampage with a gun his father took to buy him on Black Friday, just days before the killings.

Detective acknowledges not knowing if father saw shooter's texts

Friday's testimony opened with Crumbley's attorney Mariell Lehman cross-examining former Oakland County Sheriff's Detective Edward Wagrowski, who evaluated text messages, phone calls and social media accounts of the Crumbley family.

Lehman spent much of her time questioning the detective about what he did not know. Specifically, she got him to concede that he found no evidence that James Crumbley knew about the troubling texts his son was sending his friend late at night in the months before the shooting, when the boy alleged he was asking his parents in vain for help with mental health issues, including hearing voices.

Forensic expert Edward Wagrowski becomes emotional as he testifies during James Crumbley's trial in the Oakland County courtroom of Cheryl Matthews on Thursday, March 7, 2024.
Forensic expert Edward Wagrowski becomes emotional as he testifies during James Crumbley's trial in the Oakland County courtroom of Cheryl Matthews on Thursday, March 7, 2024.

For example, Lehman asked him about a text the shooter sent his friend on April 4, 2021, which reads: "I actually asked my dad to take me to the doctor the other day, and he just gave me some pills and said to 'suck it up.' My mom laughed when i told her."

On cross-examination, Wagrowski conceded that he does not know if James Crumbley ever saw or knew about that text, and that he found no evidence that the boy actually did ask to go to the doctor — other than him saying so in the text — and that he does not know what kinds of pills the boy is referring to.

Lehman suggested it could be Tylenol, while Wagrowski suggested it could be Xanax, given other communications the parents had.

But Lehman countered that the conversation involving Xanax was from a different time period and that the parents actually discussed giving him Melatonin.

Lehman also asked Wagrowski to explain how much he really knows about a video the shooter sent to his friend in the summer of 2021, in which the boy's hand is seen clicking a gun and loading a magazine into it.

'You don't know; that's my point'

"You don’t know if James is next to his son, across from his son," or if he was in the room or even heard anything when this happened, Lehman asserted.

Wagrowski said he did not have that information, though he opined that in a house as small as the Crumbleys', that a clicking sound could have been heard.

"You don't know; that's my point," Lehman said.

Mariell Lehman, attorney for James Crumbley, makes opening statements in the Oakland County courtroom of Judge Cheryl Matthews during his trial. Crumbley is being tried on four counts of involuntary manslaughter Thursday, March. 7, 2024. Crumbley's son was the perpetrator in the 2021 Oxford School mass shooting that left four students dead and seven others injured. Crumbley's wife, Jennifer was found guilty last month for the same charges. Crumbley bought his son the gun that was used in the shooting.

Lehman also asked Wagrowski about an Instagram post that the shooter made on the day his dad purchased the gun that he would use four days later in the massacre. The post reads: "Just got my new beauty."

Lehman asked Wagrowski if there is anything to show that James Crumbley saw this post. No, he answered.

She also asked him about social media posts by his wife and son that included pictures of the two at a shooting range.

"There’s nothing illegal or improper about taking your child to a shooting range, or posting photos of the target that you use," she said.

No, the detective answered.

Lehman also questioned him about perhaps the most damning evidence in the case: the troubling drawing the shooter made on the morning of the shooting, in which he drew a picture of a gun, a human being bleeding and the words, 'The thoughts won't stop. Help me."

"James obviously expressed some concern," Lehman said, referring to the text he sent his wife after first seeing that drawing that said: "my god, wtf."

Lehman did not question the witness about what happened in the school counselor's meeting that day with the parents, as the detective said he didn't know details about that meeting.

But she did address other actions of James Crumbley that day, noting that after an active-shooter alert went out, he drove to the Meijer parking lot, which was the reunification center for parents and kids, and called his son two times. He didn't know the boy was in custody already.

James Crumbley called his wife and then drove home and called 911.

"In that 911 call he told the dispatcher that he saw and heard the sirens, he said that he went to the Meijer, that his son was a student, that he heard that there was a shooting, that he discovered that his son was missing, that he didn’t know if his son took the gun, and that he was freaking out," Lehman said.

"That is correct," Wagrowski said.

On redirect examination, the prosecutor zeroed in on James Crumbley's actions after he first saw the troubling drawing on the morning of the shooting. The parents were summoned to the counselor's office for a meeting, and left to return to their jobs, promising to get their son help within 48 hours.

James Crumbley left the counselor's office that day and made DoorDash deliveries — all of them in Oxford, Wagrowski testified.

"Did he ever stop home?" Assistant Prosecutor Marc Keast asked in an effort to show that Crumbley could have stopped to look for the gun, and would have discovered it missing. "He drove past his house four times from the time he saw this, and never once did he stop at home?"

"No, he did not," Wagrowski answered.

Crumbley made threats on jailhouse phone

Day 1 of testimony in James Crumbley's trial was almost an instant replay of his wife's case, but it ended on a dramatic note, with the jury being sent home early and a visibly irritated Crumbley mouthing "no" emphatically to his lawyer.

Turned out, Crumbley was caught making threatening statements on a jailhouse telephone and in electronic messages, the Oakland County Sheriff's Office confirmed to the Free Press late Thursday, noting "his access to a phone or electronic messaging is now limited to communication with his lawyer." Authorities did not disclose the nature of the threats or toward whom they were made.

This new information surfaced late in the day Thursday during Crumbley's trial, in which prosecutors are seeking to hold him responsible for the 2021 school shooting carried out by his son.

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This article originally appeared on Detroit Free Press: James Crumbley trial, Day 2: Watch live

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