Former Packers coach Winston Moss: 'Aaron Rodgers has been the coach for nine years'

Joe Philbin’s first move last week as Green Bay Packers interim head coach was to fire associate head coach/linebackers coach Winston Moss. Moss had been with the Packers since 2006, hired by Mike McCarthy to be part of his staff when McCarthy was named the team’s head coach.

Moss is a McCarthy loyalist, and when he sent a tweet last week that was seen as disparaging to the organization, he was let go.

On Sunday, Moss got a turn to share his side of things, and let’s say it’s unlikely he will be chosen as president of the Aaron Rodgers Fan Club.

‘Rodgers has been the head coach for the past nine years’

Moss sat down with the Fox “NFL Kickoff” personalities on Sunday morning and hit on a few topics. Several of his answers indicated that Rodgers has too much power within the franchise.

“It didn’t work out this year,” Moss said when asked why McCarthy and Rodgers’ relationship didn’t work. “But you go back through the course of when Aaron Rodgers got his shot starting in 2008, they have grown exponentially together. They have created one of the most dynamic duos in the National Football League.

“Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Hall of Fame quarterback. Mike McCarthy’s résumé speaks for itself.”

But Moss let his true feelings about Rodgers show when he was asked who he believes would be the best coach for Rodgers.

“Aaron Rodgers has been the head coach for the last nine years,” Moss said, theatrically looking to his left then up to the ceiling for several seconds. “Just joking, just joking.”

But he clearly wasn’t. The Packers’ braintrust said last week that Rodgers won’t help determine who the team hires as its next head coach. Moss was asked if he believed that.

“Yeah,” he said with an exaggerated wink. “I believe that.”

Moss followed, “They should listen to his input, but the final decision should rest on who the decision-makers would like to choose to lead this organization moving forward.”

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Mike McCarthy, left, and Aaron Rodgers, right, during Green Bay Packers football training camp, Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008, at Clarke Hinkle Field in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Matt Ludtke)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy, right, congratulates quarterback Aaron Rodgers after Rodgers completed a 30-yard touchdown pass during the first half of a preseason NFL football game against the Cincinnati Bengals at Lambeau Field on Monday, Aug. 11, 2008, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer)
Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) talks with head coach Mike McCarthy in the second quarter against the San Francisco 49ers of their preseason football game, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008 in San Francisco. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy talks with quarterback Aaron Rodgers during a timeout in the first half of a NFL football game Sunday, Oct. 12, 2008, in Seattle. Rodgers led the Packers to a 27-17 win over the Seattle Seahawks, breaking a three-game Green Bay losing streak. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy smiles with quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) during the second half of an NFL football game against the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday, Dec. 27, 2009, in Green Bay, Wis. The Packers won 48-10. (AP Photo/Jim Prisching)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy talks to quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) and cornerback Charles Woodson (21) during NFL football practice, Friday, Jan. 21, 2011, in Green Bay, Wis. The Packers face the Chicago Bears in the NFC Championship on Sunday in Chicago. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)
Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, right, and head coach Mike McCarthy celebrate after the NFC Championship NFL football game Sunday, Jan. 23, 2011, in Chicago. The Packers won 21-14. (AP Photo/David J. Philip)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy, right, talks with Aaron Rodgers, left, during practice, Thursday, Feb. 3, 2011, in Dallas. Green Bay will face the Pittsburgh Steelers in the NFL football Super Bowl XLV Sunday. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers (12) is congratulated by Packers head coach Mike McCarthy after Jordy Nelson scored a touchdown during the first half of NFL Super Bowl XLV football game Sunday, Feb. 6, 2011, in Arlington, Texas. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy, left, and quarterback Aaron Rodgers celebrate after beating the Pittsburgh Steelers 31-25 in the NFL Super Bowl XLV football game Sunday, Feb. 6, 2011, in Arlington, Texas. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy talks with quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) in the first half of an NFL preseason football game against the Cincinnati Bengals, Thursday, Aug. 23, 2012, in Cincinnati. (AP Photo/John Grieshop)
Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers leaps into the arms of coach Mike McCarthy after throwing a touchdown against the Arizona Cardinals during the first half of an NFL football game Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Tom Lynn)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy talks with quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) before an NFC divisional playoff NFL football game against the San Francisco 49ers in San Francisco, Saturday, Jan. 12, 2013. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)
Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers, left, talks to head coach Mike McCarthy during NFL football training camp Friday, July 26, 2013, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Morry Gash)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy talks to Aaron Rodgers during the first half of an NFL football game against the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday, Nov. 16, 2014, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy talks to quarterback Aaron Rodgers during the first half of an NFL football game against the Detroit Lions Sunday, Nov. 15, 2015, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer)
FILE - In this Sunday, Oct. 4, 2015 file photo, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) and head coach Mike McCarthy celebrate after they scored a touchdown against the San Francisco 49ers during the second half of an NFL football game in Santa Clara, Calif. McCarthy said Monday, July 25, 2016, Rodgers is in great shape as the team starts training camp, and that it's the best shape that he's seen Rodgers in their time together. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez, File)
FILE - In this Sept. 11, 2016, file photo, Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy and quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) chat on the sideline during the second half of an NFL football game against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville, Fla. McCarthy is confident that Rodgers and Green Bay’s struggling offense will get better. Two games into the season, the results have been uncharacteristically ugly. (AP Photo/Phelan M. Ebenhack, File)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy, left, talks with quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) before an NFL divisional playoff football game against the Dallas Cowboys Sunday, Jan. 15, 2017, in Arlington, Texas. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy and quarterback Aaron Rodgers smile during NFL football training camp Saturday, Aug 5, 2017, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Matt Ludtke)
FILE - In this Sept. 9, 2018, file photo, Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy looks at Aaron Rodgers as he walks off the field after injuring his leg during the first half of an NFL football game against the Chicago Bears, in Green Bay, Wis. For the Minnesota Vikings, it’s more about whether Aaron Rodgers will have his full bag of tricks while playing with a knee injury than if he’ll be playing at all. Because the Vikings are thoroughly convinced that the Green Bay Packers quarterback will be in uniform on Sunday when they visit Lambeau Field. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer, File)
Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy talks to Aaron Rodgers during the first half of an NFL football game against the Miami Dolphins Sunday, Nov. 11, 2018, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer)
LOS ANGELES, CA - OCTOBER 28: Quarterback Aaron Rodgers #12 of the Green Bay Packers talks with head coach Mike McCarthy during the game against the Los Angeles Rams at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on October 28, 2018 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)
SEATTLE, WA - NOVEMBER 15: Aaron Rodgers #12 and head coach Mike McCarthy of the Green Bay Packers have a conversation in the first quarter against the Seattle Seahawks during their game at CenturyLink Field on November 15, 2018 in Seattle, Washington. (Photo by Abbie Parr/Getty Images)
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‘The team won the game’

At one point, Moss pulled out his championship rings — one from his days as a player with the Miami Hurricanes, when they beat Nebraska in the 1984 Orange Bowl, and the other his Super Bowl ring from when Green Bay won for the 2010 season.

“I brought these out here on purpose,” he said, placing the Miami ring on the table in front of him first. “National championship game. Last play of the game, won by a defensive player, Kenny Calhoun. We had great chemistry.

“The next deal here — how about that? 2010. Defense. The team won the game. Aaron Rodgers was great, the running game was great, the receivers were great, the defense was great, everybody had a role, stood their ground, did their job, and that’s what wins.

“I think we all probably all got a little comfortable with putting everything on A-Rod’s plate, to be quite honest with you. I’m not saying that it happened, because I will tell you this: my guys would go out and try to execute the plan to the best of their ability. The defense tried to get that done. We had young guys, we had injuries, we’ve had so many fluctuations in talent and personnel, and it was hard to get into a rhythm and a synergy.”

Moss was seemingly saying that Rodgers isn’t the sole reason for the Packers’ success.

‘Tweet was directed at Green Bay fans’

The tweet that ultimately led to Moss’ firing, he said, wasn’t directed at Philbin or team president Mark Murphy.

“The tweet was directed at the Green Bay fans. It was not directed towards anybody within the Packer organization — Coach McCarthy, Joe Philbin, Aaron Rodgers — the Packer nation has a high standard. We’ve developed and created a high standard, and this season has been somewhat … disappointing,” Moss said. “And so I tried to give direction, I tried to give purpose, and I tried to enlighten, and give my opinion on it. My opinion, so much as that worked out.”

He said he doesn’t regret the post at all.

After well over a decade with the Green Bay organization, Moss said what he’ll remember most is “coming to work every day and trying to make someone better. Trying to make myself better and trying to make someone else better.”

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