Van der Sloot possibly told slain pal he killed Natalee Holloway


John Ludwick, a former friend of Joran van der Sloot’s, claimed that van der Sloot admitted to killing Natalee Holloway and asked him to burn her remains, according to the woman who killed Ludwick in self-defense.

The 32-year-old Ludwick was fatally stabbed last month trying to kidnap his ex-girlfriend, who said he spilled the beans on van der Sloot’s admission.

“He told me that Joran did do it and hid the body,” former gal pal Emily Heistand, 23, said in a “Dr. Phil” interview that aired Monday.

Van der Sloot told Ludwick he met Holloway at an Aruba bar in 2005 and spiked her drink, Heinstand recalled being told.

They wandered off to a beach where Holloway had a bad reaction to the drugs van der Sloot secretly slipped her, and the Alabama teed started “foaming at the mouth,” Ludwick told Heinstand.

Van der Sloot is doing a 28-year stint in Peru for killing another woman there in 2010, but has never been officially accused of killing Holloway.

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WASHINGTON - JUNE 08: Beth Holloway participates in the launch of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on June 8, 2010 in Washington, DC. The non profit resource center was founded by Holloway and the National Museum of Crime & Punishment and was created to assist families of missing persons. Beth Holloway's daughter Natalee is the Alabama teen who disappeared five years ago in Aruba. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
Joran Van der Sloot (C) of the Netherlands is escorted by the police as he is transferred from the police headquarters to the prosecutor's office in Lima June 10, 2010. An official at the Peruvian national police's criminal investigations unit told Reuters on Tuesday that Van der Sloot admitted he killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores, whose body was found in a Lima hotel room last week. REUTERS/Stringer (PERU - Tags: CRIME LAW)
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Joran van der Sloot, 20, takes a walk to the local supermarket near the house of his parents in Oranjestad, Aruba, just after he was released from prison 07 December 2007. Van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the disappearance of US woman Natalee Holloway in May 2005 while she was on an end-of-school vacation. Van der Sloot who was one of the last people to see the woman alive was arrested twice, once in 2005 for three months to be questioned, and once more in November 2007. The case was thrown out due to lack of proof. AFP PHOTO / ANP PHOTO RAUL HENRIQUEZ NETHERLANDS OUT / BELGIUM OUT (Photo credit should read Raul Henriquez/AFP/Getty Images)
Beth Holloway, whose daughter Natalee disappeared five years ago in Aruba, speaks at the launch of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC), a non-profit resource center created to assist the families of missing persons founded by Holloway and the National Museum of Crime & Punishment, in Washington June 8, 2010. Joran Van der Sloot, linked to the mysterious disappearance of Natalee in Aruba, has confessed to the murder of a female student in Peru, police said on Tuesday. Van der Sloot was arrested twice in the Holloway case, which was much publicized in the United States, but he was never charged due to insufficient evidence. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES - Tags: CRIME LAW SOCIETY)
MERIDIAN, MS - JUNE 6: Diane Jacob joins a prayer vigil at Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church for missing teen Natalie Holloway, who disappeared a week ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, June 6, 2005 in Meridian, Mississippi. Holloway's father, David Holloway, belongs to the church in the southern city of about 40,000 residents. A massive search for the teen along the coast of Aruba has ensued and two men have been charged in connection with her disappearance. (Photo by Marianne Todd/Getty Images)
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Beth Holloway, whose daughter Natalee disappeared five years ago in Aruba, speaks at the launch of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC), a non-profit resource center created to assist the families of missing persons founded by Holloway and the National Museum of Crime & Punishment, in Washington June 8, 2010. Joran Van der Sloot, linked to the mysterious disappearance of Natalee in Aruba, has confessed to the murder of a female student in Peru, police said on Tuesday. Van der Sloot was arrested twice in the Holloway case, which was much publicized in the United States, but he was never charged due to insufficient evidence. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES - Tags: CRIME LAW SOCIETY)
MERIDIAN, MS - JUNE 6: Jacki Curry holds her daughter, Jessica Curry, 19, during a prayer vigil at Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church for missing teen Natalie Holloway, who disappeared a week ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, June 6, 2005 in Meridian, Mississippi. Holloway's father, David Holloway, belongs to the church in the southern city of about 40,000 residents. A massive search for the teen along the coast of Aruba has ensued and two men have been charged in connection with her disappearance. (Photo by Marianne Todd/Getty Images)
MERIDIAN, MS - JUNE 6: Mayor John Robert Smith and his wife Kelly Smith join a prayer vigil Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church for missing teen Natalie Holloway, who disappeared a week ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, June 6, 2005 in Meridian, Mississippi. Holloway's father, David Holloway, belongs to the church in the southern city of about 40,000 residents. A massive search for the teen along the coast of Aruba has ensued and two men have been charged in connection with her disappearance. (Photo by Marianne Todd/Getty Images)
MERIDIAN, MS - JUNE 6: Mayor John Robert Smith and his wife Kelly Smith join a prayer vigil at Poplar Springs Drive Baptist Church for missing teen Natalie Holloway, who disappeared a week ago while on a senior trip to Aruba, June 6, 2005 in Meridian, Mississippi. Holloway's father, David Holloway, belongs to the church in the southern city of about 40,000 residents. A massive search for the teen along the coast of Aruba has ensued and two men have been charged in connection with her disappearance. (Photo by Marianne Todd/Getty Images)
Dutch citizen Joran Van der Sloot waits for his trial to begin at the courtroom in the Lurigancho prison in Lima January 11, 2012. Van der Sloot, who was arrested but never charged in the 2005 disappearance of 18-year-old Alabama native Natalee Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba, has told police he killed 21-year-old business student Stephany Flores after meeting her in a casino in Lima. He may accept murder charges against him in a plea offer to judges on Wednesday in exchange for a reduced sentence, his lawyer said. REUTERS/Pilar Olivares (PERU - Tags: CRIME LAW POLITICS TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY)
Joran Van der Sloot of the Netherlands (C) is transferred by the police to the Justice Palace to be held temporarily before being moved to a prison in Lima June 11, 2010. An official at the Peruvian national police's criminal investigations unit told Reuters on Tuesday that Van der Sloot admitted he killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores, whose body was found in a Lima hotel room last week. REUTERS/Pilar Olivares(PERU - Tags: POLITICS CRIME LAW)
A woman looks at a newspaper headlines (UP) 22 November 2007, announcing the arrest of the main suspect in the 2005 disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba, at Aruba Head. Joran van der Sloot, 20, was arrested in the Dutch city of Arnhem at the request of the authorities in Aruba, prosecutors said. Van der Sloot spent three months in jail in Aruba while being questioned over Holloway's disappearance, before being released due to a lack of evidence. AFP PHOTO / ANP PHOTO RAUL HENRIQUEZ - NETHERLANDS OUT - BELGIUM OUT (Photo credit should read Raul Henriquez/AFP/Getty Images)
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Heistand said Ludwick confessed to her that he helped van der Sloot get rid of Holloway, who went missing during a graduation trip.

Ludwick told an Oxygen network special on Holloway that he burned her body in 2010, but DNA testing later concluded the charred remains weren’t hers.

“He told me that if we were ever in Aruba and went in the national forest, he would be able to find them,” she said.

The couple became estranged after Ludwick revealed his deep ties to van der Sloot, and his recounting was always inconsistent.

“It was always a different story,” she said.

And whether Ludwick was telling the truth may never be clear, she added, because “Joran taught him to never be honest – never tell the truth – to always, always lie.”

Ludwick wasn’t ready to give up on their relationship, however, even though Heinstand tried to distance herself from him and started dating someone else.

A knife-wielding Ludwick tried to kidnap her as she arrived home early one mid-March morning in North Port, Fla.

“He had his arm around my throat and I just started swinging backwards,” she said on “Dr. Phil.” “And when I knew that he wasn’t letting go, I just put all my strength into it, and I was like ‘I’m getting away from this.’”

Heinstand recalled grabbing the knife by the blade and driving it into Ludwick, then ran into her home.

Ludwick wandered off and later died at a Sarasota County hospital.

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