Trump's education secretary chided him for calling NBC's Chuck Todd 'a sleeping son of a b----'

  • Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was forced to address President Donald Trump's vulgar name-calling during a Monday morning interview with NBC host Savannah Guthrie.
  • "As the education secretary in charge of what our kids learn, what do you think of that kind of language?" Guthrie asked. 
  • DeVos said she would "probably use different language" and conceded that the president has "an opportunity and responsibility" to be an example to kids. 

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos was backed into a corner when asked about the president's vulgar name-calling during a Monday morning interview with NBC "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie. 

After questioning DeVos about her position on arming teachers, Guthrie asked the controversial cabinet secretary about President Donald Trump calling her NBC colleague and "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd a "sleeping son of a b----" during a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. 

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U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos speaks at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government in Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S., September 28, 2017. REUTERS/Mary Schwalm

Continuing a day of one-on-one meetings with candidates for positions in his cabinet, President-elect Donald Trump met with Betsy DeVos, two polar opposites thought to be in contention for the education portfolio.

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U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, U.S. first lady Melania Trump and Jordan?s Queen Rania speak with students and administrators at the Excel Academy public charter school in Washington, U.S., April 5, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts
U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos speaks before U.S. President Donald Trump signed a memorandum "Increasing Access to High-Quality Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) Education" in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., September 25, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts
WASHINGTON, DC - OCTOBER 30: U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos (L), who was dressed as Ms. Frizzle from 'The Magic Schoolbus' series, and Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway attend Halloween at the White House on the South Lawn October 30, 2017 in Washington, DC. President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump gave cookies away to costumed trick-or-treaters one day before the Halloween holiday. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence stand with Betsy DeVos before their meeting at the main clubhouse at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., November 19, 2016.

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Continuing a day of one-on-one meetings with candidates for positions in his cabinet, President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence met with Betsy DeVos, two polar opposites thought to be in contention for the education portfolio.

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U.S. President Donald Trump (C, background) waits to interrupt Education Secretary Betsy DeVos as she speaks to students at a school choice event at the White House in Washington, U.S. May 3, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Grant Hill #33 of the Los Angeles Clippers shakes hands with Owner Dick DeVos, Chairman of Amway and his wife Betsy DeVos during the game against the Orlando Magic during the game on February 6, 2013 at Amway Center in Orlando, Florida.

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US President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush wave after they were introduced by the Chair of the Michigan Republican Party Betsy DeVos 30 October 2004 in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Bush is on his final three days of campaigning prior for the election November 02.

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Education Secretary Betsy DeVos makes remarks during a major policy address on Title IX enforcement, which in college covers sexual harassment, rape and assault, at George Mason University, in Arlington, Virginia, U.S., September 7, 2017. REUTERS/Mike Theiler
U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos and U.S. first lady Melania Trump are greeted by a student during a visit the Excel Academy public charter school in Washington, U.S., April 5, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts
U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (C) and Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) Tom Price (R) attend a cabinet meeting with President Donald Trump at the White House in Washington, U.S. March 13, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst
U.S. President Donald Trump, joined by U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (from L), advisor Jared Kushner and U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, thanks fourth-grade students Janayah Chatelier (3rd R) and Landon Fritz (R) for the "Happy Birthday Florida" card they gave him as he visits their classroom at Saint Andrew Catholic School in Orlando, Florida, U.S. March 3, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst
U.S. President Donald Trump talks to U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos during a meeting with teachers and parents at the White House in Washington, U.S., February 14, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos (2nd R) and U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) (R) arrive with President Donald Trump aboard Air Force One at Orlando International Airport in Orlando, Florida, U.S. March 3, 2017. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst
CAMBRIDGE, MA - SEPTEMBER 28: U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos speaks in a forum at Harvard University Kennedy School of Government on Thursday, September 28, 2017. (Photo by Katye Martens Brier for The Washington Post via Getty Images)

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence emerge with Betsy DeVos after their meeting at the main clubhouse at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., November 19, 2016.

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"I wonder, as the education secretary in charge of what our kids learn, what do you think of that kind of language?" Guthrie asked. "Would you wash someone's mouth out with soap?"

"I would probably use different language myself," DeVos responded with a smile. "I think we all have an opportunity and responsibility to be examples to our kids."

Guthrie pressed her, "And that includes the president?" 

"That includes the president as well," DeVos responded. 

DeVos wasn't the first cabinet secretary forced to addressed Trump's most recent vulgarities. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin defended the president's comments during an interview with Todd on Sunday, describing them as "funny." 

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MEGYN KELLY TODAY -- Pictured: Chuck Todd on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 -- (Photo by: Nathan Congleton/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Hallie Jackson, NBC News Correspondent, Kristen Welker, NBC News White House Correspondent, moderator Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell, NBC News Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent, and Katy Tur, NBC News Foreign Correspondent, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday March 27, 2016. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
U.S. President Barack Obama (L) enters the White House press briefing room to update the press on Hurricane Sandy in Washington, October 29, 2012. Standing center is NBC's correspondent Chuck Todd and CBS's Bill Plante (R). Obama suspended campaign stops on Monday and returned to Washington to monitor the impact of Hurricane Sandy, while Republican challenger Mitt Romney dropped some events as well to show respect to the storm's potential victims. REUTERS/Jason Reed (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS DISASTER MEDIA)
Chuck Todd of MSNBC (L) and Kristian Todd (R) arrive for a State Dinner honoring Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi at the White House in Washington October 18, 2016. REUTERS/James Lawler Duggan
Chuck Todd, political director of NBC News, takes part in the NBC News Decision '08 panel at the NBC Universal summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California July 21, 2008. REUTERS/Fred Prouser (UNITED STATES)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) ? Moderator Chuck Todd appears on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, March 4, 2018. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) ? Moderator Chuck Todd and Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) appear in a pre taped interview in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing room on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Thursday, Sept. 28, 2017. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
NBC NEWS - SPECIALS -- 'NBC News 2018 State of the Union Coverage' -- Pictured: Chuck Todd -- (Photo by: Paul Morigi/NBC News/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Chuck Todd and Kellyanne Conway toast NBC News? ?Meet the Press,? the longest-running show in television history, with 70 years and counting at the Newseum the night of Nov. 9, 2017. -- (Photo by: Rob Kim/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Moderator Chuck Todd, appears on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Nov. 26, 2017. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- NBC Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent Andrea Mitchell and Moderator Chuck Todd appear at the Meet the Press Film Festival in Washington, D.C., Monday, Nov. 13, 2017. Meet the Press, the longest-running show in television history, marks its 70th anniversary with the first-ever Meet the Press Film Festival in Collaboration with the American Film Institute (AFI), held at the Landmark Atlantic Plumbing Cinema in Washington, D.C. -- (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 02: (L-R) Director Joe Wright, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), actor Gary Oldman, 'Meet the Press' Moderator Chuck Todd, and Rep. Joe Crowley (D-NY) attend a DC special screening of 'Darkest Hour' with Gary Oldman and Director Joe Wright at the U.S. Navy Memorial on November 2, 2017 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Paul Morigi/Getty Images for Focus Features and Comcast/NBC Universal)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Moderator Chuck Todd appears on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Dec. 3, 2017. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) ? United States Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin and moderator Chuck Todd appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Oct. 1, 2017. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Moderator Chuck Todd appears on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, July 2, 2017. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS -- Episode 351 -- Pictured: (l-r) Meet the Press moderator, Chuck Todd, during an interview with host Seth Meyers on April 4, 2016 -- (Photo by: Lloyd Bishop/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Presidential Candidate, Former Sec. Hillary Clinton, left, and moderator Chuck Todd, right, appear in a pre-taped interview on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Saturday May 21, 2016. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Chuck Todd, NBC News Political Director, left, and Judy Woodruff, Co-Anchor & Managing Editor of PBS Newshour, right, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Jan. 05, 2014. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
TODAY -- Pictured: Chuck Todd appears on NBC News' 'Today' show -- (Photo by: Peter Kramer/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
WASHINGTON - JULY 29: (AFP OUT) Chuck Todd, Political Director of NBC News, speaks during a live taping of Meet the Press July 29, 2007 in Washington, DC. Dan Balz, Chief Political Reporter for the Washington Post, Ron Brownstein, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times, John Harwood, the Wall Street Journal's Chief Washington Correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, of NBC News, Eugene Robinson, a columnist for the Washington Post and Todd appeared on the program to speak about the 2008 U.S. presidential election and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. (Photo by Brendan Smialowski/Getty Images for Meet the Press)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) ? Kathleen Parker, Columnist, Washington Post, left, and Chuck Todd, Political Director, NBC News, right, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Feb. 26, 2012. (Photo by: William Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: Joe Scarborough, Host, MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' left, Chuck Todd, Political Director, NBC News, left rear, moderator David Gregory, center, Mike Murphy, Republican strategist, right rear, and Katty Kay, Washington Correspondent and Anchor, BBC World News America, right, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Jan. 22, 2012. (Photo by William B. Plowman/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: Gov. Mitch Daniels (R-IN), left, and guest moderator Chuck Todd, right, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, March 13, 2011. (Photo by William B. Plowman/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NBC PRESS TOUR JULY 2008 -- 'All Star Party' -- Pictured: (l-r) David Gregory, Betsy Fischer, Joe Scarborough, Chuck Todd during the 2008 NBC Press Tour 'All Star Party' held at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills, CA on Tuesday, July 20, 2007 -- Photo by: Trae Patton/NBCU Photo Bank
Participating in the NBC News Decision '08 panel are (L-R) Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, Steve Capus, Chuck Todd, Keith Olbermann and David Gregory at the NBC Universal Summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California July 21, 2008. REUTERS/Fred Prouser (UNITED STATES)
MEET THE PRESS -- Pictured: (l-r) Mayor of Baltimore Stephanie Rawlings-Blake (D) left, and Chuck Todd, NBC News, right, appear on 'Meet the Press' in Washington, D.C., Sunday, Dec. 1, 2013. (Photo by: William B. Plowman/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)
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"When [President Trump] uses vulgarity to talk about individuals, what are they supposed to tell their kids?" Todd asked. 

"I think you should be focused on what the policies are. He's using those vulgarities in the context of a campaign rally," Mnuchin responded. "Obviously there were a lot of funny moments on that rally."

Trump made the comment during a raucous speech for Republican congressional candidate Rick Saccone, most of which he spent railing against his enemies in politics and the media and touting his accomplishments. At one point, Trump mentioned a 1999 appearance he made on "Meet the Press," which he noted is "a show now headed by Sleepy-Eyes Chuck Todd."

"He is a sleeping son of a b----, I'll tell you," the president added.

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