Former first lady Michelle Obama isn't particularly interested in running for president.
Instead, Obama, who is 54, is interested in "creating thousands of mes" by working with younger leaders.
"As an older leader I think an important part of leadership is stepping out of the way and making room," she said at a conference on Tuesday.
Michelle Obama is hopeful about the next generation of leaders in the US.
The former first lady of the US, 54, has been meeting many younger leaders through her work with the Obama Foundation. It's given her a lot of optimism about their approach to leading the country.
"They're tired of watching us do the same old thing and expect different results," Obama said at Klick Health's Muse event in New York on Tuesday. "So I'm optimistic about the future. There are some bright young people out there doing some amazing things."
Those interactions have helped to solidify her plans, which likely won't involve a run for office.
"This is why I'm not going to run for president" she said. "Because I think it's a better investment to invest in creating thousands of mes."
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Rather than just having one "Michelle Obama" vying for the presidency, she hopes to help more people get into leadership positions.
"We don't need just one, we need thousands and thousands," Obama said.
Obama spent eight years in the White House as first lady. The idea of swapping spots with her husband President Barack Obama doesn't appeal to her.
"As an older leader I think an important part of leadership is stepping out of the way and making room," Obama said.
If the Obamas were to trade spots and Michelle decided to run for office, that would limit the country. "We're not finding that new energy out there," she said.