'Something was desperately wrong with this guy': US Army lieutenant general who served with Mike Flynn weighs in on his downfall

  • Retired US Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling said "hubris and vengeance" are to blame for former national security adviser Michael Flynn's downfall.
  • Hertling said in an interview with CNN that Flynn's behavior in recent years was unbecoming of a US armed services veteran.
  • Flynn pleaded guilty to a charge he lied to the FBI. He is now cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller in the Russia investigation.


A retired US Army lieutenant general weighed in on Michael Flynn's guilty plea in the ongoing Russia investigation. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, who served with Flynn in the US Army, said he believes the former national security adviser's downfall was the result of an unexplained "hubris and vengeance" that overcame any sense of professionalism.

Hertling explained how he felt in a CNN interview Friday night, saying he is "embarrassed for the Army," and highlighting the small circle of three-star generals who are given "a special trust and confidence by the government and the military, and the soldiers that he leads."

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National security adviser General Michael Flynn delivers a statement daily briefing at the White House in Washington U.S., February 1, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn arrives at the Trump Tower for meetings with US President-elect Donald Trump, in New York on November 17, 2016.

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Retired United States Army lieutenant general Michael T. Flynn introduces Republican Presidential nominee Donald J. Trump before he delivered a speech at The Union League of Philadelphia on September 7, 2016 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Trump spoke about his plans to build up the military if elected. Recent national polls show the presidential race is tightening with two months until the election.

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Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, at podium, and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump attend a campaign event with veterans at the Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Ave., NW, where Trump stated he believes President Obama was born in the United States, September 16, 2016.

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WASHINGTON, DC - FEBRUARY 01: White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer (L) yields the briefing room podium to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn February 1, 2017 in Washington, DC. Flynn said the White House is 'officially putting Iran on notice' for a recent missile test and support for Houthi rebels in Yemen. (Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, prepares to testify at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing in Dirksen Building titled 'Current and Future Worldwide Threats,' featuring testimony by he and James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence.

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White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn (C) arrives prior to a joint news conference between Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and U.S. President Donald Trump at the White House in Washington, U.S., February 13, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
U.S. National Security Advisor Michael Flynn boards Air Force One at West Palm Beach International airport in West Palm Beach, Florida U.S., February 12, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
National security adviser General Michael Flynn arrives to deliver a statement during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington U.S., February 1, 2017. Picture taken February 1, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn (L) arrives at Joint Base Andrews, Maryland, U.S., February 10, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
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Lieutenant General Michael Flynn (ret.), National Security Advisor Designate speaks during a conference on the transition of the US Presidency from Barack Obama to Donald Trump at the US Institute Of Peace in Washington DC, January 10, 2017. / AFP / CHRIS KLEPONIS (Photo credit should read CHRIS KLEPONIS/AFP/Getty Images)
Retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, U.S. national security advisor, attends a swearing in ceremony of White House senior staff in the East Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Sunday, Jan. 22, 2017. Trump today mocked protesters who gathered for large demonstrations across the U.S. and the world on Saturday to signal discontent with his leadership, but later offered a more conciliatory tone, saying he recognized such marches as a hallmark of our democracy. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images
WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 20: Michael Flynn walks out after a morning worship service on Inauguration day at St. John's Episcopal Church in Washington, DC on Friday, Jan. 20, 2017. (Photo by Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images)
WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 20: Attorney General nominee Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) (R), talks with National Security Advisor Michael Flynn inside of the inaugural parade reviewing stand in front of the White House on January 20, 2017 in Washington, DC. Donald Trump was sworn in as the nation's 45th president today. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)
Retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, White House national security adviser-designate, center, stands in an elevator at Trump Tower in New York, U.S., on Thursday, Jan. 12, 2017. Donald Trump is slated to meet with AT&T Inc.'s top executives on Thursday to discuss the company's proposed $85.4 billion bid for Time Warner Inc., according to people familiar with the matter. The president-elect has said he opposes the deal. Photographer: John Taggart/Bloomberg via Getty Images
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"The second part of that is the emotion of being furious," Hertling said, describing his reaction to Flynn's missteps. "He went against the constitution of the United States. General officers, soldiers are held to a higher standard," he said. "We are taught throughout our career to honor the values of things like duty, honor, country, integrity, respect, loyalty, selfless service."

"America expects that of its general-officer ranks because they give us their sons and daughters to defend the country," Hertling added.

"So when you have an individual who lies, who serves one individual as opposed to the constitution of the country, it just, truthfully, makes me a little bit furious."

Hertling, at turns seeming both somber and dismayed, said Flynn's political rhetoric and his increasingly fiery evangelism for Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign was troubling — particularly for a three-star general.

"Mike Flynn went over the top, and that was the first indicator that something was desperately wrong with this guy," Hertling said. "I think something went wrong toward the end of his career; that demons got ahold of him, and for one reason or another, hubris and vengeance took over where, in the past, there had been professionalism."

FLASHBACK: How people reacted to Mueller's appointment 

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Flynn is now cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller in the broad investigation of Russia's influence campaign during the 2016 US election, during which members of Trump's inner circle may have worked together with the Kremlin. Some key players caught in Mueller's crosshairs — including Trump, his son Donald Trump, Jr. and son-in-law Jared Kushner — have denied any wrongdoing.

Flynn's cooperation with Mueller follows months of headlines that placed Flynn at the center of suspicions around Russia's US-election meddling. His paid work on behalf of foreign governments is another point of scrutiny, which forced him to register as a foreign agent earlier this year.

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