Why Hoda Kotb isn’t making Matt Lauer’s salary (at least not yet)

In the world of TV news, there’s an inordinate amount of time and effort spent scrutinizing what the nation’s most popular anchors make. The figures can be eyebrow raising: Katie Couric was reportedly making $15 million a year when anchoring “CBS Evening News” and Matt Lauer, depending on which unverified report one chooses to believe as if it were passed along in a personal memo from NBC News Chairman Andy Lack, could have been pulling down anywhere from $20 million to $25 million during his last year hosting NBC’s “Today.”

'Today' co-hosts react to Hoda Kotb replacing Matt Lauer:

'Today' co-hosts react to Hoda Kotb replacing Matt Lauer
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'Today' co-hosts react to Hoda Kotb replacing Matt Lauer
So happy for my dear friend @hodakotb !! Congratulations on being named the new Co Anchor of @TODAYshow !! Nobody does it better!!
Whaaaaaatttttttt! #SavannahHodaTODAY https://t.co/qX53MUHxcj
Congrats to the awesome and talented @hodakotb on her well-deserved new role as co-anchor of @TODAYshow. Love you Hoda! #SavannahHodaTODAY
A hearty #congratulations to @hodakotb officially our new @TODAYshow #cohost with @SavannahGuthrie… https://t.co/zFsflh7tzz
Whoooo hoooo!!! Look who’s #Trending #today at #1 #SavannahHodaTODAY https://t.co/bqwzOl5KOg
"It could not happen to a sweeter, better, more beloved person." @KathieLGifford joined Studio 1A to congratulate… https://t.co/ELYsyVLpad
Best way to start the year! Congrats @hodakotb https://t.co/gYwh4awRaJ
The team of @SavannahGuthrie +@hodakotb happens to be two of the best, smartest, hilarious people I know!!… https://t.co/O6kYcbc0LF
This is us! #SavannahHodaTODAY https://t.co/Xe2z6uygZe
Beyond thrilling! #SavannahHodaTODAY https://t.co/S5Cj9x8pTu
Congrats @hodakotb on your well deserved promotion! We love you! #SavannahHodaTODAY

Little wonder, then, that a report in The New York Post’s Page Six all about newsroom salaries has stirred up online opprobrium. In this case, people are shocked by what NBCUniversal may or may not be paying Hoda Kotb, the newly-christened co-anchor of “Today” (and, coincidentally, Lauer’s replacement). It’s not how much the network is paying Kotb that has triggered thousands of impulses to let loose on Twitter, but rather a question as to whether NBC is paying Kotb enough.

According to Page Six, NBC is paying Kotb the meager sum of just $7 million a year – a number, the outlet says, that could be equivalent to what her co-anchor Savannah Guthrie might earn, but far less than Lauer’s mammoth paycheck. An NBC spokesperson said the network doesn’t comment on compensation and a spokesperson for CAA, the agency that represents Kotb, said executives there declined to comment. “I’m not making Matt Lauer money. Not even close,” Kotb told People according to a story posted Wednesday.

Salaries of top TV hosts:

Salaries of top TV hosts
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Salaries of top TV hosts
Mike Myers (“The Gong Show”) - $3 million
Jamie Foxx (“Beat Shazam”) - $ 3 million
Alec Baldwin (“Match Game”) - $3 million

Hoda Kotb (“Today”) - $7 million 

Ryan Seacrest (“American Idol”) - $12 million
Conan O’Brien (“Conan”) - $12 million
David Letterman (Untitled Netflix Interview Show) - $12 million

Anderson Cooper (CNN) - $12 million
George Stephanopoulos (ABC News) - $15 million
Ryan Seacrest (“Live with Kelly & Ryan”) - $15 million
Pat Sajak (“Wheel of Fortune”) - $15 million
Jimmy Kimmel (“Jimmy Kimmel Live!”) - $15 million
Stephen Colbert (“The Late Show”) - $15 million
Jimmy Fallon (“The Tonight Show”) - $16 million
Robin Roberts (“Good Morning America”) - $18 million
Megyn Kelly (NBC News) - $18 million
Kelly Ripa (“Live with Kelly & Ryan”) - $22 million
Katy Perry (“American Idol”) - $25 million
Judith Sheindlin (“Judge Judy”) - $47 million
Ellen DeGeneres (“The Ellen DeGeneres Show”) - $50 million


While the optics of the financial arrangement have spurred a very worthwhile and necessary discussion about compensation parity among men and women in the media business, the simple fact is that Kotb is being treated much like almost any other anchor or host who takes over a coveted and long-held post on a venerable TV program. TV networks often see opportunity in such transitions, because it typically means a cutback in salary outlay. It’s a fair gamble, for example, that Stephen Colbert wasn’t given David Letterman’s salary upon taking over CBS’ “Late Show,” or that Trevor Noah was not immediately handed Jon Stewart’s financial arrangement upon being given the reins to Comedy Central’s “Daily Show.” Lauer, no doubt, wasn’t immediately festooned with Bryant Gumbel’s paycheck when he graduated to a “Today” co-anchor slot in 1997.

Few TV anchors start off making massive salaries, and there’s been a growing consensus in the industry in recent weeks that fewer are going to snare those figures in the future. The economics of the business no longer support it. Viewers are getting their news from dozens of new outlets, and many broadcast-news mainstays have experienced viewer erosion of the last several years. In the U.S., about 93% of adults get news via mobile or desktop, according to data from Pew Research Center, while the overall audiences for broadcast network evening newscasts and morning programs each dropped 1% in 2016.  The fact that “Today” has started to trump ABC rival “Good Morning America” in the ratings since Lauer’s departure and that “CBS This Morning” has not seen massive viewer defections since Charlie Rose was ousted lend credence to the notion that TV-news junkies are increasingly tuning in first for the news and second for the familiar person delivering it.

To be sure, there have been and always will be exceptions. Megyn Kelly is believed to have negotiated a salary of at least $17 million from NBC News, which snared her when her contract at Fox News Channel ended last year. Fox News is known to pay its top stars salaries well above some industry standards, however, and NBC had to cough up attractive terms at a time when Kelly was holding exploratory talks with several news organizations.

Salaries grow the longer a person stays in a particular position. In the recent past, Lauer signed new deals ever two or three years, and it’s easy to see how compensation might grow substantially at that rate, particularly when he held the same role for at least two decades.

But it’s the rare case when someone gets the same salary as their predecessor. Anchors and hosts need to prove staying power and show they are a ratings draw. Over time, that makes them more valuable and more difficult to let go. No doubt, if “Today” continues to outdraw “GMA”  as it has in recent weeks –  whether it can remains an unknown – or if the broadcast gains new viewers or widens its overall audience, Kotb will no doubt see her compensation rise with each contract renewal.

The question people should be asking isn’t whether Hoda Kotb is making Matt Lauer’s former salary. She’s not. But is she making a fair wage given that she’s the co-host of two of NBC’s most valuable hours while continuing to co-host a third with Kathie Lee Gifford? Only her agents and top NBCUniversal executives know for sure.

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