Taylor Swift says Kanye West is 'two-faced' and dishes on 'context' of that infamous phone call

Taylor Swift is opening up about her feud with Kanye West.

In a new interview with Rolling Stone, the 29-year-old "London Boy" singer breaks down her decade-long feud like never before, referencing everything from the 2009 MTV VMAs to West's song "Famous," which reignited bad blood between the pair in 2016.

Swift and West's feud dates back to the 2009, when the rapper interrupted Swift's onstage acceptance speech for Best Female Video at the VMAs to protest her victory. "Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you. I'mma let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time!" West infamously yelled.

Despite quick apologies from West, years later he said that he didn't "have one regret" about the situation and said his previous apologies were a result of "peer pressure." Things appeared friendly from there, when collaboration rumors even started swirling around for a bit..

"I started to feel like we reconnected, which felt great for me -- because all I ever wanted my whole career after that thing happened in 2009 was for him to respect me," Swift tells Rolling Stone of that period. "When someone doesn’t respect you so loudly and says you literally don’t deserve to be here -- I just so badly wanted that respect from him, and I hate that about myself, that I was like, 'This guy who’s antagonizing me, I just want his approval.' But that’s where I was."

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NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 13: Kanye West takes the microphone from Taylor Swift and speaks onstage during the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards at Radio City Music Hall on September 13, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 13: Kanye West takes the microphone from Taylor Swift and speaks onstage during the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards at Radio City Music Hall on September 13, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 08: Kanye West and Taylor Swift attend The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 08: Kanye West and Taylor Swift attend The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 08: Taylor Swift, Jay Z, Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West attend The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards at STAPLES Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 08: (L-R) Recording Artists Taylor Swift, Kanye West and tv personality Kim Kardashian attend The 57th Annual GRAMMY Awards at the STAPLES Center on February 8, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Larry Busacca/Getty Images for NARAS)
LOS ANGELES, CA - AUGUST 30: Recording artist Kanye West (L) accepts the Video Vanguard Award from recording artist Taylor Swift onstage during the 2015 MTV Video Music Awards at Microsoft Theater on August 30, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/MTV1415/Getty Images For MTV)
LOS ANGELES, CA - AUGUST 30: Recording artist Kanye West (L) accepts the Video Vanguard Award from recording artist Taylor Swift onstage during the 2015 MTV Video Music Awards at Microsoft Theater on August 30, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/MTV1415/Getty Images For MTV)
LOS ANGELES, CA - AUGUST 30: (L-R) Singer-songwriter Taylor Swift, TV personalities Kim Kardashian, Kourtney Kardashian, rapper Kanye West and TV personality Kris Jenner in the audience during the 2015 MTV Video Music Awards at Microsoft Theater on August 30, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by John Shearer/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - AUGUST 30: (EDITORS NOTE: This image has been altered using digital filters.) Recording artist Kanye West (L) accepts the Vanguard Award from recording artist Taylor Swift onstage during the 2015 MTV Video Music Awards at Microsoft Theater on August 30, 2015 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Christopher Polk/MTV1415/Getty Images)
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"And so we’d go to dinner and stuff. And I was so happy, because he would say really nice things about my music. It just felt like I was healing some childhood rejection or something from when I was 19," she continues, before revealing the reasons behind deciding to publicly end their feud once and for all with an onstage reconciliation at the 2015 VMAs.

"But the 2015 VMAs come around. He’s getting the Vanguard Award. He called me up beforehand -- I didn’t illegally record it, so I can’t play it for you," Swift says, referencing an infamous phone call between she and West that his wife, Kim Kardashian West, would soon release. "But he called me up, maybe a week or so before the event, and we had maybe over an hour-long conversation, and he’s like, 'I really, really would like for you to present this Vanguard Award to me, this would mean so much to me,' and went into all the reasons why it means so much, because he can be so sweet. He can be the sweetest. And I was so stoked that he asked me that."

"And so I wrote this speech up, and then we get to the VMAs and I make this speech and he screams, 'MTV got Taylor Swift up here to present me this award for ratings!' And I’m standing in the audience with my arm around his wife, and this chill ran through my body," Swift continues. "I realized he is so two-faced. That he wants to be nice to me behind the scenes, but then he wants to look cool, get up in front of everyone and talk s**t. And I was so upset."

The fallout from those VMAs was quick, with the much-discussed phone call between Swift and West taking place over the rapper's track "Famous," which featured the lyric, "I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex / Why? I made that b**ch famous."

While West claimed he got the lyric approved by Swift, the "Paper Rings" singer denied that fact, even after West's wife shared an audio recording that seemed to back up West's claim. 

"He wanted me to come talk to him after the event in his dressing room. I wouldn’t go. So then he sent this big, big thing of flowers the next day to apologize. And I was like, 'You know what? I really don’t want us to be on bad terms again. So whatever, I’m just going to move past this.'" she explains of the day after the 2015 VMAs. "So when he gets on the phone with me, and I was so touched that he would be respectful and, like, tell me about this one line in the song. And I was like, 'OK, good. We’re back on good terms.'"

"And then when I heard the song, I was like, 'I’m done with this. If you want to be on bad terms, let’s be on bad terms, but just be real about it,'" she continues. "The world didn’t understand the context and the events that led up to it. Because nothing ever just happens like that without some lead-up. Some events took place to cause me to be pissed off when [West] called me a b**ch. That was not just a singular event. Basically, I got really sick of the dynamic between he and I. And that wasn’t just based on what happened on that phone call and with that song -- it was kind of a chain reaction of things."

She adds, "I really don’t want to talk about it anymore because I get worked up, and I don’t want to just talk about negative s**t all day."

While Swift and West's feud has been largely removed from her recent Lover press tour, the "You Need to Calm Down" singer did speak about the impact of being "canceled" in her recent Vogue profile.

"A mass public shaming, with millions of people saying you are quote-unquote canceled, is a very isolating experience," she said. "I don’t think there are that many people who can actually understand what it’s like to have millions of people hate you very loudly. When you say someone is canceled, it’s not a TV show. It’s a human being. You’re sending mass amounts of messaging to this person to either shut up, disappear, or it could also be perceived as, 'Kill yourself.'"

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Taylor Swift out and about in 2019
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PARIS, FRANCE - SEPTEMBER 09: (EDITORS NOTE: Image approved by Artist) Taylor Swift performs during the "City of Lover" concert at L'Olympia on September 9, 2019 in Paris, France. (Photo by Dave Hogan/ABA/Getty Images)
PRUDENTIAL CENTER, NEWARK, NEW JERSEY, UNITED STATES - 2019/08/26: Taylor Swift attends the 2019 MTV Video Music Video Awards held at the Prudential Center in Newark, NJ. (Photo by Efren Landaos/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images)
NEWARK, NEW JERSEY - AUGUST 26: Singer Taylor Swift attends the 2019 MTV Video Music Awards red carpet at Prudential Center on August 26, 2019 in Newark, New Jersey. (Photo by Aaron J. Thornton/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - AUGUST 26: (L-R) Bella Hadid, Taylor Swift, and Gigi Hadid attend as Republic Records celebrates The 2019 VMAs at The Fleur Room at Moxy Chelsea on August 26, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Republic Records)
NEWARK, NEW JERSEY - AUGUST 26: Taylor Swift performs onstage during the 2019 MTV Video Music Awards at Prudential Center on August 26, 2019 in Newark, New Jersey. (Photo by Mike Coppola/Getty Images for MTV)
BROOKLYN, NEW YORK - AUGUST 23: (L-R) Jeslyn, Eliotte Nicole, Taylor Swift, Melanie Nyema and Kamilah Marshall pose with Spotify Mural on Album Release Day at Kent Avenue and South 1st Street, Williamsburg, on August 23, 2019 in Brooklyn, New York. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Spotify)
GOOD MORNING AMERICA - 8/22/19 Taylor Swift performs live from Central Park on "Good Morning America," Thursday, August 22, 2019, airing on the Walt Disney Television Network. GMA19 (Photo by Paula Lobo/Walt Disney Television) ROBIN ROBERTS, TAYLOR SWIFT
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - AUGUST 22: Taylor Swift visits "Elvis Duran And The Z100 Morning Show" at Z100 Studio on August 22, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for ABA)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - AUGUST 22: Taylor Swift takes a selfie with the cast of "Good Morning America" before performing on ABC's "Good Morning America" at SummerStage at Rumsey Playfield, Central Park on August 22, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for ABA)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - AUGUST 22: Taylor Swift performs on ABC's "Good Morning America" at SummerStage at Rumsey Playfield, Central Park on August 22, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images for ABA)
TEEN CHOICE 2019: Taylor Swift arrives on the blue carpet at TEEN CHOICE 2019 airing Sunday, August 11 (8:00-10:00 PM ET live/PT tape-delayed) on FOX from Hermosa Beach, CA. (Photo by FOX Image Collection via Getty Images)
TEEN CHOICE 2018: Taylor Swift accepts the Icon Award onstage at TEEN CHOICE 2019 airing Sunday, August 11 (8:00-10:00 PM ET live/PT tape-delayed) on FOX from Hermosa Beach, CA. (Photo by FOX Image Collection via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - JULY 10: Taylor Swift performs onstage as Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, SZA and Becky G perform at The Prime Day concert, presented by Amazon Music at on July 10, 2019 at Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Amazon )
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - JULY 10: Taylor Swift performs onstage as Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, SZA and Becky G perform at The Prime Day concert, presented by Amazon Music at on July 10, 2019 at Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Amazon )
CARSON, CALIFORNIA - JUNE 01: (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO COMMERCIAL USE) Taylor Swift performs onstage at 2019 iHeartRadio Wango Tango presented by The JUVÉDERM® Collection of Dermal Fillers at Dignity Health Sports Park on June 01, 2019 in Carson, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for iHeartMedia)
CARSON, CALIFORNIA - JUNE 01: (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO COMMERCIAL USE) Taylor Swift performs onstage at 2019 iHeartRadio Wango Tango presented by The JUVÉDERM® Collection of Dermal Fillers at Dignity Health Sports Park on June 01, 2019 in Carson, California. (Photo by Rich Fury/Getty Images for iHeartMedia)
CARSON, CALIFORNIA - JUNE 01: (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO COMMERCIAL USE) Taylor Swift performs onstage at 2019 iHeartRadio Wango Tango presented by The JUVÉDERM® Collection of Dermal Fillers at Dignity Health Sports Park on June 01, 2019 in Carson, California. (Photo by Rich Fury/Getty Images for iHeartMedia)
Taylor Swift during the filming of the Graham Norton Show at BBC Studioworks 6, Television Centre, Wood Lane, London, to be aired on BBC One on Friday evening. (Photo by Matt Crossick/PA Images via Getty Images)
(left to right) Sophie Turner, Michael Fassbender, Jessica Chastain, James McAvoy and Taylor Swift during the filming of the Graham Norton Show at BBC Studioworks 6, Television Centre, Wood Lane, London, to be aired on BBC One on Friday evening. (Photo by Matt Crossick/PA Images via Getty Images)
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - MAY 01: Taylor Swift performs during the 2019 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 1, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
THE VOICE -- "Live Finale Results" Episode 1616B -- Pictured: Taylor Swift -- (Photo by: Trae Patton/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
BILLBOARD MUSIC AWARDS -- Show Backstage -- 2019 BBMA at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada -- Pictured: (l-r) Halsey, Taylor Swift and Jennifer Hudson -- (Photo by: Todd Williamson/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - MAY 01: Brendon Urie (L) of Panic! at the Disco and Taylor Swift perform during the 2019 Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 1, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - MAY 01: 2019 Taylor Swift arrives at the Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 01, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Steve Granitz/WireImage)
LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - MAY 01: 2019 Taylor Swift arrives at the Billboard Music Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on May 01, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Steve Granitz/WireImage)
NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE - APRIL 25: In advance of her new single 'Me!, Taylor Swift surprises fans at the new Kelsey Montague "What Lifts You Up" Mural on April 25, 2019 in Nashville, Tennessee. Swift commissioned the mural and put clues about her upcoming new music in the piece. (Photo by Leah Puttkammer/Getty Images)
NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE - APRIL 25: In advance of her new single 'Me!, Taylor Swift surprises fans at the new Kelsey Montague "What Lifts You Up" Mural on April 25, 2019 in Nashville, Tennessee. Swift commissioned the mural and put clues about her upcoming new music in the piece. (Photo by Leah Puttkammer/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - APRIL 23: Taylor Swift performs during the TIME 100 Gala 2019 Dinner at Jazz at Lincoln Center on April 23, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images for TIME)
NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 23: Taylor Swift attends the 2019 Time 100 Gala at Frederick P. Rose Hall, Jazz at Lincoln Center on April 23, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Taylor Hill/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 23: Taylor Swift attends the Times 100 Most Influential People red carpet event on April 23, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Robert Kamau/GC Images)
NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 22: Taylor Swift seen out and about in Manhattan on April 22, 2019 in New York City. (Photo by Robert Kamau/GC Images)
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - MARCH 14: Taylor Swift arrives at the 2019 iHeartRadio Music Awards which broadcasted live on FOX at Microsoft Theater on March 14, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Tony Barson/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - MARCH 14: Taylor Swift arrives at the 2019 iHeartRadio Music Awards which broadcasted live on FOX at Microsoft Theater on March 14, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Tony Barson/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - MARCH 14: (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO COMMERCIAL USE) Taylor Swift on stage at the 2019 iHeartRadio Music Awards which broadcasted live on FOX at the Microsoft Theater on March 14, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic for iHeartMedia )
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - MARCH 14: (EDITORIAL USE ONLY. NO COMMERCIAL USE) Maren Morris (L) and Taylor Swift attend the 2019 iHeartRadio Music Awards which broadcasted live on FOX at Microsoft Theater on March 14, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for iHeartMedia)
LONDON, ENGLAND - FEBRUARY 10: Taylor Swift and Joe Alwyn seen attending the Vogue BAFTA party at Annabel's club in Mayfair on February 10, 2019 in London, England. (Photo by GOR/GC Images)
BEVERLY HILLS, CALIFORNIA - JANUARY 06: Music Artist Taylor Swift attends InStyle And Warner Bros. Golden Globes After Party 2019 at The Beverly Hilton Hotel on January 06, 2019 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Leon Bennett/FilmMagic)
BEVERLY HILLS, CA - JANUARY 06: Taylor Swift attends the 2019 InStyle and Warner Bros. 76th Annual Golden Globe Awards Post-Party at The Beverly Hilton Hotel on January 6, 2019 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for InStyle)
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