Michael Moore says 'there is one person that would crush Trump': Michelle Obama

As this week’s debates reminded us, there are more than 20 Democrats running for president in 2020. Michael Moore would like to see one more: Michelle Obama.

Though the former first lady has repeatedly dismissed speculation that she’d run for political office, both in interviews and her 2018 memoir, Becoming, Moore told MSNBC’s Brian Williams Wednesday night that he sees her as the “one person that would crush Trump” in 2020.

“Everybody watching this right now knows she is a beloved American, and she would go in there, and she would beat him,” the filmmaker said. “She’d beat him in the debates, he wouldn’t be able to bully her, he wouldn’t be able to nickname her ... and she is beloved.

“Just go to C-SPAN and follow her book tour across the country,” he continued. “She’s playing 15,000-seat arenas in the Midwest. They have to turn people away. She takes the stage and she’s so powerful and so good. You just look at that and you think, ‘Of course. She could win.’"

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ATLANTA, GEORGIA - MAY 11: Former First Lady Michelle Obama attends 'Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama' at State Farm Arena on May 11, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Paras Griffin/Getty Images)
ATLANTA, GEORGIA - MAY 11: Former First Lady Michelle Obama attends 'Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama' at State Farm Arena on May 11, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Paras Griffin/Getty Images)
Former US First Lady Michelle Obama talks about her autobiography 'Becoming' as she sits on stage at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam on April 17, 2019. (Photo by Remko de Waal / ANP / AFP) / Netherlands OUT (Photo credit should read REMKO DE WAAL/AFP/Getty Images)
ATLANTA, GEORGIA - MAY 11: Former First Lady Michelle Obama attends 'Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama' at State Farm Arena on May 11, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Paras Griffin/Getty Images)
Former US First Lady Michelle Obama during a book tour for her memoir, Becoming, at the London O2 Arena. (Photo by Kirsty O'Connor/PA Images via Getty Images)
LONDON, ENGLAND - APRIL 14: Michelle Obama on stage as part of her "Becoming: An Intimate Conversation With Michelle Obama" tour at The O2 Arena on April 14, 2019 in London, England. (Photo by Mike Marsland/WireImage)
Former US first lady Michelle Obama gestures on stage of the Royal Arena in Copenhagen on April 9, 2019 during a tour to promote her memoir 'Becoming'. (Photo by Martin Sylvest / Ritzau Scanpix / AFP) / Denmark OUT (Photo credit should read MARTIN SYLVEST/AFP/Getty Images)
Former US first lady Michelle Obama gestures on stage of the Royal Arena in Copenhagen on April 9, 2019 during a tour to promote her memoir 'Becoming'. (Photo by Martin Sylvest / Ritzau Scanpix / AFP) / Denmark OUT (Photo credit should read MARTIN SYLVEST/AFP/Getty Images)
Former US first lady Michelle Obama speaks on stage of the Royal Arena in Copenhagen on April 9, 2019 during a tour to promote her memoir 'Becoming'. (Photo by Martin Sylvest / Ritzau Scanpix / AFP) / Denmark OUT (Photo credit should read MARTIN SYLVEST/AFP/Getty Images)
TACOMA, WASHINGTON - MARCH 24: Michelle Obama (L) speaks with Jimmy Kimmel live onstage about her book 'Becoming' at the Tacoma Dome on March 24, 2019 in Tacoma, Washington. (Photo by Jim Bennett/Getty Images)
TACOMA, WASHINGTON - MARCH 24: Michelle Obama speaks live onstage with Jimmy Kimmel (not shown) about her book 'Becoming' at the Tacoma Dome on March 24, 2019 in Tacoma, Washington. (Photo by Jim Bennett/Getty Images)
TACOMA, WASHINGTON - MARCH 24: Michelle Obama speaks live onstage with Jimmy Kimmel (not shown) about her book 'Becoming' at the Tacoma Dome on March 24, 2019 in Tacoma, Washington. (Photo by Jim Bennett/Getty Images)
TACOMA, WASHINGTON - MARCH 24: Michelle Obama (L) greets members of a local book group to discuss her book 'Becoming' at the Tacoma Public Library main branch on March 24, 2019 in Tacoma, Washington. (Photo by Jim Bennett/Getty Images)
TACOMA, WASHINGTON - MARCH 24: Michelle Obama (C) speaks with Lestraundra Alfred (R) and other members of a local book group about her book 'Becoming' at the Tacoma Public Library main branch on March 24, 2019 in Tacoma, Washington. (Photo by Jim Bennett/Getty Images)
AUSTIN, TEXAS - FEBRUARY 28: Former First Lady Michelle Obama attends 'Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama' at the Frank Erwin Center on February 28, 2019 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Rick Kern/WireImage)
AUSTIN, TEXAS - FEBRUARY 28: Former First Lady Michelle Obama attends 'Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama' at the Frank Erwin Center on February 28, 2019 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Rick Kern/WireImage)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 19: Former first lady Michelle Obama discusses her book 'Becoming' at Barclays Center on December 19, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 19: Former first lady Michelle Obama (L) discusses her book 'Becoming' with Sarah Jessica Parker at Barclays Center on December 19, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 19: Former first lady Michelle Obama discusses her book 'Becoming' at Barclays Center on December 19, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images)
SAN JOSE, CA - DECEMBER 14: Former First Lady Michelle Obama speaks during her 'Becoming' book tour stop at the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., on Friday, Dec. 14, 2018. Obama's memoir was released on November 13th. (Anda Chu/Digital First Media/The Mercury News via Getty Images)
SAN JOSE, CA - DECEMBER 14: Former First Lady Michelle Obama, left, speaks with moderator Michelle Norris during her 'Becoming' book tour stop at the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., on Friday, Dec. 14, 2018. Obama's memoir was released on November 13th. (Anda Chu/Digital First Media/The Mercury News via Getty Images)
SAN JOSE, CA - DECEMBER 14: Former First Lady Michelle Obama, left, waves to the crowd as moderator Michelle Norris looks on during her 'Becoming' book tour stop at the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., on Friday, Dec. 14, 2018. Obama's memoir was released on November 13th. (Anda Chu/Digital First Media/The Mercury News via Getty Images)
Michelle Obama acknowledges the crowd at the Royal Festival Hall in London during her visit to the UK to publicise her memoir Becoming, which tells of her personal journey to becoming First Lady and her time in the White House. (Photo by Yui Mok/PA Images via Getty Images)
DENVER, CO - DECEMBER 13: Former First Lady of the United States, Michelle Obama, left, and actress Reese Witherspoon have a laugh together on stage during Becoming: An Intimate Conversation at the Pepsi Center December 13, 2018. (Photo by Andy Cross/The Denver Post via Getty Images)
Michelle Obama (left) in conversation with writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie at the Royal Festival Hall in London during her visit to the UK to publicise her memoir Becoming, which tells of her personal journey to becoming First Lady and her time in the White House. (Photo by Yui Mok/PA Images via Getty Images)
Former US first lady Michelle Obama greets well-wishers after speaking to an audience during a visit to Elizabeth Garrett Anderson School in London on December 3, 2018, to discuss education issues during her tour to promote her memoir, 'Becoming'. - Former US first lady Michelle Obama's book, 'Becoming,' sold more than two million copies in North America in its first 15 days. She said Sunday she was canceling book tour visits to Paris and Berlin to attend the funeral of former president George H.W. Bush, who died Friday aged 94. (Photo by Ben STANSALL / AFP) (Photo credit should read BEN STANSALL/AFP/Getty Images)
Former US first lady Michelle Obama (L) share's a stage with executive headteacher Jo Dibb (not pictured) and Nusrath Hassan (R) a girls' education activist and public speaker during a visit to Elizabeth Garrett Anderson School in London on December 3, 2018, to discuss education issues during her tour to promote her memoir, 'Becoming'. - Former US first lady Michelle Obama's book, 'Becoming,' sold more than two million copies in North America in its first 15 days. She said Sunday she was canceling book tour visits to Paris and Berlin to attend the funeral of former president George H.W. Bush, who died Friday aged 94. (Photo by Ben STANSALL / AFP) (Photo credit should read BEN STANSALL/AFP/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 01: Former first lady Michelle Obama and Executive Director for the 'Let's Move!' campaign Sam Kass visit The Lower Eastside Girls Club to meet and greet the members and discuss her new book 'Becoming' on December 01, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Roy Rochlin/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 01: Former first lady Michelle Obama visits The Lower Eastside Girls Club to meet and greet the members and discuss her new book 'Becoming' on December 01, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Roy Rochlin/Getty Images)
BOSTON, MA - NOVEMBER 24: Former First Lady Michelle Obama and moderator Michelle Norris address the crowd at the TD Garden before conversing about Obama's new book, Becoming on November 24, 2018.
BOSTON, MA - NOVEMBER 24: Former First Lady Michelle Obama and moderator Michelle Norris address the crowd at the TD Garden before conversing about Obama's new book, Becoming on November 24, 2018.
BOSTON, MA - NOVEMBER 24: Michelle Obama discusses her new book 'Becoming' with Michelle Norris in front of a sold out audience of more than 20,000 people at TD Garden on November 24, 2018 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Paul Marotta/Getty Images)
INGLEWOOD, CA - NOVEMBER 15: Former First Lady and author Michelle Obama appears onstage at Becoming: An Intimate Conversation with Michelle Obama at the Forum on November 15, 2018 in Inglewood, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
SAN JOSE, CA - DECEMBER 14: Former First Lady Michelle Obama speaks during her "Becoming" book tour stop at the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., on Friday, Dec. 14, 2018. Obama's memoir was released on November 13th. (Anda Chu/Digital First Media/The Mercury News via Getty Images)
SAN JOSE, CA - DECEMBER 14: Former First Lady Michelle Obama speaks during her "Becoming" book tour stop at the SAP Center in San Jose, Calif., on Friday, Dec. 14, 2018. Obama's memoir was released on November 13th. (Anda Chu/Digital First Media/The Mercury News via Getty Images)
Former US First Lady Michelle Obama talks about her autobiography 'Becoming' as she sits on stage at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam on April 17, 2019. (Photo by Remko de Waal / ANP / AFP) / Netherlands OUT (Photo credit should read REMKO DE WAAL/AFP/Getty Images)
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The Fahrenheit 9/11 director did concede that it’s unlikely that the former FLOTUS — who was just interviewed by Meghan Markle for British Vogue — would actually throw her hat into the ring.

“But everyone’s now saying well, of course, she’s not going to run,” he told Williams. “Well, has anyone asked her? I think if she were asked, ‘Look, we’re sorry about this. We have to come back to you, you have to go back to the White House, your country needs you,’ if asked to serve, I believe she would serve.

“I think she would win, she would crush him,” he predicted, explaining that, given that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but still lost the election, it’s not enough to “just beat him.”

Obama isn’t Moore’s only hope, however. Though he’s critical of certain Democratic strategies, the Oscar winner said earlier in the broadcast that “in my humble opinion,” four candidates have a shot at defeating Trump: Sen. Bernie Sanders, former Vice President Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Sen. Kamala Harris.

While Obama has ruled out a run — “We need fresh, real, clear eyes in this stuff,” she’s said of seeking office — Moore may be on to something.

On Thursday morning, even Fox & Friends were singing her praises as they criticized Democratic candidates for keeping their distance from the last administration.

“She is beloved around the world,” co-host Ainsley Earhardt said of the former first lady.

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NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: Michael Moore poses at the opening night after party for 'Michael Moore: The Terms Of My Surrender' on Broadway at Bryant Park Grill on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)

Today I went & stood in front of Trump Tower & held a sign until the police came. Then I went home & wrote Donald a letter. Here it is:

Dear Donald Trump:

You may remember (you do, after all, have a "perfect memory!"), that we met back in November of 1998 in the green room of a talk show where we were both scheduled to appear one afternoon. But just before going on, I was pulled aside by a producer from the show who said that you were "nervous" about being on the set with me. She said you didn't want to be "ripped apart" and you wanted to be reassured I wouldn't "go after you."

"Does he think I'm going to tackle him and put him in a choke hold?" I asked, bewildered.

"No," the producer replied, "he just seems all jittery about you."

"Huh. I've never met the guy. There's no reason for him to be scared," I said. "I really don't know much about him other than he seems to like his name on stuff. I'll talk to him if you want me to."

And so, as you may remember, I did. I went up and introduced myself to you. "The producer says you're worried I might say or do something to you during the show. Hey, no offense, but I barely know who you are. I'm from Michigan. Please don't worry -- we're gonna get along just fine!"

You seemed relieved, then leaned in and said to me, "I just didn't want any trouble out there and I just wanted to make sure that, you know, you and I got along. That you weren't going to pick on me for something ridiculous."

"Pick on" you? I thought, where are we, in 3rd grade? I was struck by how you, a self-described tough guy from Queens, seemed like such a fraidey-cat.

You and I went on to do the show. Nothing untoward happened between us. I didn't pull on your hair, didn't put gum on your seat. "What a wuss," was all I remember thinking as I left the set.

And now, here we are in 2015 and, like many other angry white guys, you are frightened by a bogeyman who is out to get you. That bogeyman, in your mind, are all Muslims. Not just the ones who have killed, but ALL MUSLIMS.

Fortunately, Donald, you and your supporters no longer look like what America actually is today. We are not a country of angry white guys. Here's a statistic that is going to make your hair spin: Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year are either female, people of color, or young people between the ages of 18 and 35. In other words, not you. And not the people who want you leading their country.

So, in desperation and insanity, you call for a ban on all Muslims entering this country. I was raised to believe that we are all each other's brother and sister, regardless of race, creed or color. That means if you want to ban Muslims, you are first going to have to ban me. And everyone else.

We are all Muslim.

Just as we are all Mexican, we are all Catholic and Jewish and white and black and every shade in between. We are all children of God (or nature or whatever you believe in), part of the human family, and nothing you say or do can change that fact one iota. If you don't like living by these American rules, then you need to go to the time-out room in any one of your Towers, sit there, and think about what you've said.

And then leave the rest of us alone so we can elect a real president who is both compassionate and strong -- at least strong enough not to be all whiny and scared of some guy in a ballcap from Michigan sitting next to him on a talk show couch. You're not so tough, Donny, and I'm glad I got to see the real you up close and personal all those years ago.

We are all Muslim. Deal with it.

All my best,
Michael Moore

P.S. I'm asking everyone who reads this letter to go here (http://michaelmoore.com/weareallmuslim), and sign the following statement: "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" -- and then post a photo of yourself holding a homemade sign saying "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram using the hashtag ‪#‎WeAreAllMuslim‬. I will post all the photos on my site and send them to you, Mr. Trump. Feel free to join us.

P.P.S. - To sign my statement for #WeAreAllMuslim, go here on my website: http://michaelmoore.com/weareallmuslim

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NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: (L-R) Rosie O'Donnell, Kathy Najimy, Christie Brinkley and Michael Moore walk in a parade of celebration to the opening night party for 'Michael Moore: 'The Terms Of My Surrender' on Broadway at The Belasco Theatre to Bryant Park Grill on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: (EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE) Michael Moore and Al Sharpton chat backstage at the opening night of 'Michael Moore: 'The Terms Of My Surrender' on Broadway at The Belasco Theatre on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: Michael Moore takes his Opening Night bow for 'Michael Moore: 'The Terms Of My Surrender' on Broadway at The Belasco Theatre on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 15: Mark Ruffalo, Marisa Tomei and Fisher Stevens join Michael Moore as he leads his Broadway audience to Trump Tower to protest President Donald Trump on August 15, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Noam Galai/Getty Images for for DKC/O&M)
LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS -- Episode 571 -- Pictured: (l-r) Filmmaker Michael Moore talks with host Seth Meyers during an interview on August 17, 2017 -- (Photo by: Lloyd Bishop/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: (EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE) Michael Moore and Christie Brinkley pose backstage at the opening night of 'Michael Moore: 'The Terms Of My Surrender' on Broadway at The Belasco Theatre on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 15: Olivia Wilde joins Michael Moore as he leads his Broadway audience to Trump Tower to protest President Donald Trump on August 15, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Noam Galai/Getty Images for for DKC/O&M)
Film maker Michael Moore poses with the Palme d'Or at the Palais de Festival during the 57th Cannes Film Festival in France. The top prize was awarded to Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, a scathing indictment of White House actions after the September 11 terror attacks. It is the first documentary to win Cannes' prestigious prize since Jacques Cousteau's The Silent World in 1956.
Michael Moore arrives for the premiere of the new film 'Aviator' at the Mann's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. Directed by Martin Scorcese, the film tells the story of avition pioneer Howard Hughes.
AP OUT Michael Moore attends a photo call for his new film Sicko, at the Palais de Festival during the 60th annual Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, France.
AP OUT Michael Moore attends a photo call for his new film Sicko, at the Palais de Festival during the 60th annual Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, France.
Writer/director Michael Moore attends the 'Captain Mike Across America' press conference during the Toronto International Film Festival 2007 held at the Sutton Place Hotel.
Michael Moore speaks during an interview at the site of his one-man Broadway show at the Belasco Theatre in Manhattan, New York, U.S., August 17, 2017. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
Michael Moore poses for a portrait at the site of his one-man Broadway show at the Belasco Theatre in Manhattan, New York, U.S., August 17, 2017. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 15: Michael Moore leads his Broadway audience to Trump Tower to protest President Donald Trump on August 15, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Noam Galai/Getty Images for for DKC/O&M)
NEW YORK, NY - AUGUST 10: Michael Moore attends 'The Terms Of My Surrender' Broadway Opening Night - After Party at Bryant Park Grill on August 10, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Mike Coppola/Getty Images)
Michael Moore during a photocall for his new film, Sicko, at the Palais De Festival, during the 60th International Cannes Film Festival in France. Picture date Saturday May 19, 2007. Photo by Doug Peters/EMPICS Entertainment
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