R. Kelly, who was charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse involving four victims — three of whom were minors — earlier this month, aggressively denied any wrongdoing in an emotional interview with Gayle King on “CBS This Morning.” At times the singer — who, as detailed in the recent docuseries “Surviving R. Kelly,” has multiple accusations of sexual misconduct dating back 25 years — wept, yelled, stood up and violently waved his arms. Asked by King if, as some have alleged, whether he is holding women captive against their will, he addressed the camera directly and shouted:
“That’s stupid! Use your common sense. Forget the blogs, forget how you feel about me. Hate me if you want to, love me if you want. But just use your common sense. How stupid would it be for me, with my crazy past and what I’ve been through – oh right now I just think I need to be monster, hold girls against their will, chain them up in my basement, and don’t let them eat, don’t let them out, unless they need some shoes down the street from their uncle!”
At another point, he said, “I’m a man. I make mistakes, but I’m not a devil, and by no means am I a monster.” And at another: “I’ve been assassinated; I’ve been buried alive. But I’m alive.”
At times Kelly, who was dressed in a somber grey suit, became so heated and animated that King’s co-hosts said after watching the interview that they were concerned for her safety. “I felt I might get accidentally clobbered,” King said, “but I never felt in danger.”
Other excerpts from the 80-minute interview were released on Tuesday night; another segment will air on Thursday, and on Friday the show sits down with two of the women alleged to be held against their will — in a brief excerpt, one of them is seen weeping and saying, “You guys don’t know the truth, this is all lies for money and if you can’t see that you’re stupid.” The women, one of whom is Joycelyn Savage, whose parents have made strong allegations agains Kelly, said they both live with the singer in a sexual relationship.
R. Kelly through the years
R. Kelly through the years
CHICAGO - DECEMBER 20: Embattled R and B singer R. Kelly (C) heads to court December 20, 2002 in Chicago, Illinois. Kelly faces 21 counts of child pornography stemming from a videotape that surfaced, allegedly depicting the singer having sex with a minor. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
R. Kelly performs at The United Center in his hometown, Chicago. 05/15/99 (Photo by James Crump/WireImage)
R. Kelly (Photo by SGranitz/WireImage)
NEW YORK - JUNE 10: American recording artist, songwriter, record producer and former professional basketball player R. Kelly doing a signing on June 10, 1992 at the BMG Distribution Conference Room in New York City. (Photo by Waring Abbott/Getty Images)
Singer, R. Kelly on stage during a concert at the Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim. (Photo by Don Bartletti/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images)
NETHERLANDS - APRIL 01: Photo of R KELLY (Photo by Paul Bergen/Redferns)
NETHERLANDS - APRIL 01: Photo of R KELLY (Photo by Paul Bergen/Redferns)
8 Feb 2002: Singer R. Kelly performs at the Opening Ceremony of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympic Games at the Rice-Eccles Olympic Stadium in Salt Lake City, Utah. DIGITAL IMAGE. Mandatory Credit: Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images
BARTOW, FL - JUNE 6: Florida attorney Diane Buerger (R) argues for bail for R&B singer R. Kelly (L) at the Polk County Courthouse on June 6, 2002 in Bartow, Florida. Judge Karla Wright decided on $750,000 bail and Kelly waived extradition and will be sent back to Illinois. (Photo by George McGinn/Getty Images)
ROSEMOUNT, IL - SEPTEMBER 25: (FILE PHOTO) Singer R. Kelly performs at the Rosemont Horizon on September 25, 1994 in Rosemont, IL. R. Kelly, was arrested on a warrant alleging 12 counts of possession of child pornography on January 22, 2003 in Miami, FL. (Photo by Tim Boyle/Getty Images)
DADE COUNTY, FL - JANUARY 22: Singer R. Kelly is shown in this police handout photo January 22, 2003 at the Dade County Jail, Florida. Kelly was arrested on charges of child pornography after police found pictures of Kelly engaging in a sex act with an underage girl. Kelly is currently facing child pornography charges in Illinois for a separate incident. (Photo by Dade County Jail/Getty Images)
OAKLAND, CA - AUGUST 15: R. Kelly performs as part of his 2003 Summer tour at the Oakland Arena August 15, 2003 in Oakland, California. R. Kelly is currently touring the U.S. promoting his 'Chocolate Factory' release. (Photo by Tim Mosenfelder/Getty Images)
SANTA MONICA, CA - NOVEMBER 20: Singer R. Kelly performs on stage at the Vibe Awards: Beats, Style, Flavor at the Santa Monica Civic Center, November 20, 2003 in Santa Monica, California. (Photo by Vince Bucci/Getty Images) The VIBE Awards air November 21, 2003, on UPN.
LOS ANGELES - NOVEMBER 21: Singer R. Kelly (R) and guest attend the game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Chicago Bulls on November 21, 2003 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Vince Bucci/Getty Images)
LAS VEGAS - DECEMBER 10: Singer R. Kelly performs onstage during the 2003 Billboard Music Awards at the MGM Grand Garden Arena December 10, 2003 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The 14th annual ceremony airs live tonight on FOX 8:00-10:00 PM ET Live/PT. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - FEBRUARY 8: Singer R. Kelly arrives at the 46th Annual Grammy Awards held at the Staples Center on February 8, 2004 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
HOLLYWOOD - FEBRUARY 8: Singer R. Kelly and guest attend the BMG Post-Grammy Party following the 46th Annual Grammy Awards at the Avalon on February 8, 2004 in Hollywood, California. (Photo by Vince Bucci/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - MARCH 20: Singer R. Kelly performs at the '18th Annual Soul Train Music Awards' at the Scottish Rite Auditorium on March 20, 2004 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
ROSEMONT, IL - SEPTEMBER 29: Singer R. Kelly performs during the 'Best of Both Worlds' tour with Jay-Z on September 29, 2004 at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois. (Photo by Frank Micelotta/Getty Images)
NEW YORK - OCTOBER 29: Singer R. Kelly performs on the 'Best of Both Worlds' tour with Jay-Z October 29, 2004 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. (Photo by Frank Micelotta/Getty Images)
MIAMI - AUGUST 28: Singer R. Kelly arrives at the 2005 MTV Video Music Awards at the American Airlines Arena on August 28, 2005 in Miami, Florida. (Photo by Getty Images/Getty Images)
PASADENA, CA - MARCH 04: Singer R. Kelly accepts the Stevie Wonder Award with Stevie Wonder (R) presenting onstage at the 20th Annual Soul Train Music Awards at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium on March 4, 2006 in Pasadena, California. (Photo by Vince Bucci/Getty Images)
NEW YORK - AUGUST 15: Singer R. Kelly attends the premiere of Chapters 13-22 of 'Trapped In The Closet' at the IFC Center, August 15, 2007 in New York City. (Photo by Evan Agostini/Getty Images)
CHICAGO - OCTOBER 11: Soul singer R. Kelly and rapper Beanie Sigel pose during the making of Sigel's music video for his single, 'All Of The Above' at the Sofitel Hotel in Chicago, Illinois on October 11, 2007. (Photo by Raymond Boyd/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - NOVEMBER 05: Singer/songwriter R. Kelly performs at the Nokia Theatre L.A. Live on November 5, 2009 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Dr. Billy Ingram/WireImage)
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In previously unaired footage on Wednesday morning, King engaged in an at times heated exchange with the singer (lightly edited below).
King: Have you ever had sex with anyone under the age of 17?
King: So all of these women are lying?
King: Do you think people should still buy your music?
Kelly: Absolutely, I think they should, although (he nods, equivocating) a lot of them may not. I’m not really fighting for my career here — I’m fighting for my rights and I’m fighting to have a relationship with my kids, more than anything because I missed a lot of years of their life. They love me, I love them,” he welled up.
Kelly is estranged from his three children from his 10-year marriage to Drea Kelly, who is among the accusers featured in “Surviving R. Kelly.”
King: Do they want a relationship with you?
Kelly: I bet you they do. I bet my breath one it. [But] they’re pressured [not to see him], and I get it.
King: What would you do if someone did to your daughters what people say you’ve done to young women?
Kelly: I’d be up in that motherf —-, f—ing everything up — I had to bleep myself there. I would have to arrest myself after I did what I had to do.
King: You’ve said many times that you were sexually abused from the ages of 7 to 14. How has that affected you?
Kelly: It hasn’t affected me at all [he immediately reverses himself], it has affected me in this way: anything I’ve been through or struggles I’ve had in the past has affected my music.
King: It hasn’t affected your behavior?
Kelly: Absolutely not. I know people will say ‘He was abused, that’s why he doing that,’ but no no no no no.
King: Experts say that abusers were often abused themselves.
Kelly: That’s what the experts said? They said they all did it?
King: No, not all, but a lot do.
Kelly: No? here I stand, I’m in the “not all” [category]. But they also didn’t say when you’re R. Kelly and you’re famous and your named is ringing 25 million times across the world every day and people are trying to get money from you, they’re using the past to link it onto that, they’re using that…
King: You’ve said you need help in some form of therapy?
Kelly: Absolutely, at this point I’m definitely talking about that.
King: People have said you’re out of touch with the seriousness of the allegations against you.
Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey throughout their friendship
Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey throughout their friendship
(L-R) Television talk show host Oprah Winfrey and magazine editor Gayle King at launch party for Winfrey's O magazine. (Photo by Dave Allocca/DMI/The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images)
(L-R) Magazine editor Gayle King and television personality Oprah Winfrey. (Photo by Dave Allocca/DMI/The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images)
Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King at the Cipriani's in New York City, New York (Photo by Carmen Valdes/WireImage)
NEW YORK CITY - MAY 25: (L-R) Steadman Graham, Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King attend 21st Annual Daytime Emmy Awards on May 25, 1994 at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City. (Photo by Ron Galella, Ltd./WireImage)
NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 20: Talk show host Oprah Winfrey (C), Vogue editor Anna Wintour (L) and Oprah Magazine editor Gayle King attend the Vera Wang Spring/Summer 2003 Collection at the New York Public Library for Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week September 20, 2002 in New York City. (Photo by Mark Mainz/Getty Images)
(EXCLUSIVE, Premium Rates Apply) Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey *Exclusive* (Photo by Mathew Imaging/FilmMagic)
Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King during Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week Spring Collections 2003 - Vera Wang - Front Row at Bryant Park in New York City, New York, United States. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/WireImage)
NEW YORK CITY - NOVEMBER 12: Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King attend 46th Annual National Urban League Awards on November 12, 2002 at Pier 60 at Chelsea Piers in New York City. (Photo by Ron Galella, Ltd./WireImage)
(EXCLUSIVE, Premium Rates Apply) Dr. Michael Lomax, President of UNCF, Oprah Winfrey, Quincy Jones and Gayle King (Photo by Louis Myrie/WireImage)
Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King attend 'Moving Image Salutes John Travolta' at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City on Sunday, November 5, 2004. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/WireImage for NBC Universal Photo Department)
Malaak Rock, Oprah Winfrey, Erica Reid and Gayle King **Exclusive** ***Exclusive*** (Photo by Johnny Nunez/WireImage)
(EXCLUSIVE, Premium Rates Apply) Beyonce Knowles, Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage for People Magazine)
Beyonce Knowles, Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey during Antonio 'L.A.' Reid's 50th Birthday Party - Inside at Nobu - 57th Street in New York, New York, United States. (Photo by KMazur/WireImage for People Magazine)
DURBAN, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 12: Oprah Winfrey and her best friend Gayle King listens as teachers interview candidates for her school for unprivileged girls on August 12, 2006 in Durban, South Africa. Oprah has invested over $40 million to build a first class high school for a few hundred lucky girls from all over South Africa. She has realized her dream and promise to president Nelson Mandela to build the school, and to uplift the lives if these young girls. (Photo by Per-Anders Pettersson/Getty Images)
Jean Chatsky, Gayle King, Bob Greene, Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Mehmet Oz, Marianne Williamson, Dr. Robin Smith and Nate Berkus (Photo by Larry Busacca/WireImage for XM Satellite Radio)
Gayle King, Chaz Lamar Shepherd, who plays Harpo and NaTasha Yvette Williams, who plays Sofia (played by Oprah Winfrey in the film) ***EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE*** (Photo by Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK - MAY 05: Oprah Winfrey, Diane Sawyer and Gayle King attends the Time's 100 Most Influential People in the World Gala at Rose Hall - Jazz at Lincoln Center on May 5, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage for Time Inc.)
***EXCLUSIVE*** Entrepreneur Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King attend the 'Up In The Air' Premiere held at the Ryerson Theatre during 2009 Toronto International Film Festival on September 12, 2009 in Toronto, Canada. ***Exclusive*** (Photo by Jeff Vespa/WireImage)
NEW YORK - JUNE 6: ***EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE*** (L-R) Television personality Gayle King, actresses Elizabeth Ashley and Phylicia Rashad, dressed as her character 'Violet Weston', and talk show host Oprah Winfrey pose backstage at the Pulitzer Prize-winning play 'August: Osage County' at the Music Box Theatre on Broadway June 6, 2009 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK - MAY 09: Media personalities Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey onstage at the completion of the 'Live Your Best Life Walk' to celebrate O, The Oprah Magazine's 10th Anniversary in Times Square on May 9, 2010 in New York City. (Photo by Jemal Countess/Getty Images)
CULVER CITY, CA - JUNE 10: Oprah Winfrey (R) and Gayle King in the audience during the 38th AFI Life Achievement Award honoring Mike Nichols held at Sony Pictures Studios on June 10, 2010 in Culver City, California. The AFI Life Achievement Award tribute to Mike Nichols will premiere on TV Land on Saturday, June 25 at 9PM ET/PST. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images for AFI)
DALLAS, TX - JUNE 08: Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey during the 35th Anniversary Celebration for Bishop Thomas Dexter 'T.D.' Jakes, Sr. at the AT&T Performing Arts Center on June 8, 2012 in Dallas, Texas. (Photo by Cooper Neill/Getty Images For The Potter's House)
CHICAGO, IL - MAY 17: (L-R) Gayle King, Oprah Winfrey and Maria Shriver attend Surprise Oprah! A Farewell Spectacular at the United Center on May 17, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Barry Brecheisen/WireImage)
NEW YORK, NY - MAY 15: (EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE) (L-R) Gayle King, Audra McDonald as 'Billie Hollday' and Oprah Winfrey pose backstage at 'Lady Day at Emerson's Bar and Grill' on Broadway at The Circle in The Square Theater on May 15, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)
PASADENA, CA - FEBRUARY 22: (L-R) TV personality Gayle King, guest and Oprah Winfrey attend the 45th NAACP Image Awards presented by TV One at Pasadena Civic Auditorium on February 22, 2014 in Pasadena, California. (Photo by John Sciulli/Getty Images for NAACP Image Awards)
NEW YORK, NY - SEPTEMBER 08: Television personalities Oprah Winfrey (L) and Gayle King (R) attend the Women's Singles Quarterfinals match between Serena Williams of the United States and Venus Williams of the United States on Day Nine of the 2015 US Open at the USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center on September 8, 2015 in the Flushing neighborhood of the Queens borough of New York City. (Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - MAY 09: Gayle King and Oprah Winfrey attend The Robin Hood Foundation's 2016 Benefit at Jacob Javitz Center on May 9, 2016 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/Getty Images)
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NEW YORK, NY - SEPTEMBER 24: (L-R) Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Walters, and Gayle King attend the David Geffen Hall Renaming Ceremony & The New York Philharmonic's 2015-16 Opening Gala Concert at Josie Robertson Plaza at Lincoln Center on September 24, 2015 in New York City. (Photo by Andrew Toth/Getty Images)
BEVERLY HILLS, CA - JANUARY 07: (L-R) TV personality Gayle King, Oprah Winfrey and director Ava DuVernay celebrate The 75th Annual Golden Globe Awards with Moet & Chandon at The Beverly Hilton Hotel on January 7, 2018 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Michael Kovac/Getty Images for Moet & Chandon)
NEW YORK, NY - MAY 14: Oprah Winfrey and Gayle King are seen leaving the 'Ed Sullivan Theater' on May 14, 2015 in New York City. (Photo by Raymond Hall/FilmMagic)
NEW YORK, NY - OCTOBER 16: (EXCLUSIVE ACCESS) (L-R) Gayle King, Lin-Manuel Miranda and Oprah Winfrey pose backstage at the hit musical 'Hamilton' on Broadway at The Richard Rogers Theater on October 16, 2015 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Glikas/FilmMagic)