A few years ago I was seated next to Woody Allen at a dinner party. He creeped me the hell out and told me that he loved watching Hannah Montana. He also said his "friend" Bill Cosby was getting railroaded. Once a pedophile always a pedophile https://t.co/8VYLLEyuC6
Griffin, who doesn’t seem afraid to weigh in on the topic, having survived her drama with Trump, linked to a clip of herself telling the longer story at Build (which is an Oath-owned property) in 2016 when she was promoting her book, Kathy Griffin’s Celebrity Run-Ins, My A-Z Index. At the time, Allen, 83, was already a controversial figure — for leaving girlfriend Mia Farrow for her adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn, as well as for subsequent claims by Allen and Farrow’s adopted daughter, Dylan Farrow, that he sexually abused her (which he has denied) — but that was before the #MeToo era, when several stars from his films distanced themselves from the director.
Here is the full clip of Griffin telling the Woody Allen story on Build:
Griffin, describing her encounter with Allen as a “jaw-dropper,” said in the video: “I’m in a small dinner party — like 12 people — and I’m seated next to Woody Allen, and I’m uncomfortable because I think he’s guilty.” When people laughed, she added, “I’m allowed to think that” and continued. “So he sits next to me, and he opened with a funny line because, I have to say, I like a dark sense of humor, and he’s got legit indiscretions but he’s also a legit genius. So he comes in with the wife and goes, ‘I’m Woody, and this is my child bride.'”
Griffin said she initially appreciated his “awareness” of his reputation, but she said small talk didn’t work with Allen, whom she described as “very frail and very feeble.” For instance, when she asked him about directing various comedians, he replied that his casting director handled that. He said he’d never seen his “friend” Liev Schreiber in Showtime’s Ray Donovan nor Kevin Spacey, with whom he had also worked, in House of Cards. (Well, when Spacey still did.) Griffin said she sensed that Allen “found me annoying,” so she decided to just “make it fun for myself.” That led her to bring up Miley Cyrus, who was the tween star of Disney Channel’s Hannah Montana, before becoming a pop star, and that got Allen talking.
“Swear to God, he goes, ‘I’ve never missed Hannah Montana,” Griffin recalled. She called his response “creepy, but weird, but funny.” Allen continued, “’I don’t know, that girl, she just had something,’” before Griffin replied, “‘Yeah, she was 8.’” (She was actually 13 when she debuted in the role.)
Woody Allen and Soon-Yi
Woody Allen and Soon-Yi
Woody Allen (L) and Soon-Yi Previn arrive for the premiere of Allen's movie, "Everyone Says I Love You," in New York January 9. The movie is the first musical written and directed by Allen. It was filmed in New York, Paris, and Venice.
U.S. actor and filmaker Woody Allen kisses Soon-Yi Previn, the adopted daughter of his former lover Mia Farrow, in a gondola in Venice's Grand Canal December 24. Allen 62, and Previn, 27, were married in a secret civil ceremony December 23, officiated by Venice Mayor Massimo Cacciari, at the imposing Palazzo Cavalli.
Actor and director Woody Allen (R) sits next to his new wife Soon-Yi at the New York Knicks versus Orlando Magic basketball game, January 3 in Madison Square Garden. The couple were married last week in Venice.
U.S. actor and director Woody Allen (L) and Soon-Yi Previn watch the final [between Pete Sampras and Marat Safin] at the U.S. Open in New York September 10, 2000.
U.S. director Woody Allen and his wife Soon Yi arrive at the Venice Movie
Palace August 27, 2003. Allen film 'Anything Else' is set to kick off the
60th annual Venice Film Festival. REUTERS/Tony Gentile PP03080098
Comic and film director Woody Allen and his wife, Soon Yi Previn (obscured-left) and children watch the Cleveland Cavaliers play the New York Knicks in an NBA game in New York's Madison Square Garden, January 28, 2005. REUTERS/Ray Stubblebine RFS
U.S. director Woody Allen (L) arrives with his wife Soon Yi Previn during red carpet arrivals for the out of competition screening of his film "Match Point" at the 58th Cannes Film Festival May 12, 2005.
Director Woody Allen (L) and his wife Soon-Yi Previn arrive at the Los Angeles premiere of "Match Point" at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art in Los Angeles December 8, 2005. The movie tells the story of former tennis pro Chris who falls for Nola who happens to be dating one of Chris' friends. The movie opens in Los Angeles and New York on December 28. REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni
U.S. director Woody Allen and his wife Soon-Yi arrives at the Cinema Palace in Venice September 2, 2007. Allen's movie "Cassandra's Dream" is being shown at the Venice Film Festival. REUTERS/Alessandro Bianchi ( ITALY)
U.S. director Woody Allen and his wife Soon-Yi arrive for the screening of his film "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" at the 61st Cannes Film Festival May 17, 2008. REUTERS/Jean-Paul Pelissier (FRANCE)
Director Woody Allen and his wife Soon-Yi pose at the premiere of the film "Whatever Works" in Paris June 19, 2009. REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes (FRANCE ENTERTAINMENT)
Director Woody Allen (L) and his wife Soon-Yi (R) leave after the screening of the film "You will meet a tall dark stranger" at the 63rd Cannes Film Festival May 15, 2010. REUTERS/Yves Herman (FRANCE - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
U.S. film director Woody Allen poses with his wife Soon-Yi Previn during a photocall before a screening of his latest film "You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger" in Aviles, northern Spain, August 24, 2010. REUTERS/Stringer (SPAIN - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
Director of the movie and cast member Woody Allen (L) and his wife Soon-Yi Previn pose at the premiere of "To Rome with Love" during the opening night of the Los Angeles Film Festival at the Regal Cinemas in Los Angeles, California June 14, 2012. The movie opens limitedly in the U.S. on June 22. REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
U.S. director Woody Allen and his wife Soon Yi Previn pose during the premiere of his film "To Rome with Love" in Rome April 13, 2012. REUTERS/Stefano Rellandini (ITALY - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
Director Woody Allen arrives with his wife Soon-Yi Previn for the premiere of his film "Magic in the Moonlight" in New York July 17, 2014. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
Director Woody Allen (L) and his wife Soon-Yi Previn arrive on the red carpet for the screening of the film "Irrational Man" out of competition at the 68th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, southern France, May 15, 2015. REUTERS/Regis Duvignau
Director Woody Allen and his wifre Soon-Yi Previn pose on the red carpet as they arrive for the opening ceremony and the screening of the film "Cafe Society" out of competition during the 69th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, May 11, 2016.FranceREUTERS/Eric Gaillard
NEW YORK, NY - FEBRUARY 27: Soon-Yi Previn and Woody Allen attend The Art Show Gala Preview at Park Avenue Armory on February 27, 2018 in New York City. (Photo by Sean Zanni/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 13: Soon-Yi Previn and Woody Allen attend the Youth America Grand Prix Stars of Today Meet the Stars of Tomorrow Gala at the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center on April 13, 2017 in New York City. (Photo by Rebecca Smeyne/Getty Images)
Griffin said that after talking to Allen about Cyrus, who is now 26, she said something about all the celebrities he must have met during his long, storied career, and he replied, “And now I have to watch my friend Bill Cosby get railroaded.” Cosby is serving 3 to 10 years in prison after being convicted on three counts of sexually assaulting Andrea Constand. Dozens of other women also accused Cosby of drugging and assaulting them.
Griffin’s story about Allen is the first celebrity run-in in her book. Of Allen’s interest in Cyrus, she wrote, “Yeah. Pick your jaw up off the floor, and let that nestle somewhere uncomfortably in your stomach.”
Of course, Allen went on to cast Cyrus in his 2016 Amazon series Crisis in Six Scenes. And Cyrus said in 2016 that, despite the sexual abuse allegations against Allen, she jumped at the chance to work with him. “I live a similar life to Woody — I live a public life,” she told Variety. “Until I know someone and I know their story, I never really judge anyone. That’s kind of how I went into it. From the way I saw him with his family, I never saw him be anything but an incredible person and a really great dad. People might slam me for saying that. I’m sure it was a hard time for that family. My family has been through hard things, and I think everyone’s suffering is different.”
On Monday, the Hollywood Reporter ran an interview with model and actress Christina Engelhardt, who claimed she met Allen in October 1976 — when she was 16 and he was 40 — and they had a sexual relationship over a span of eight years. Engelhardt, who has written a manuscript about the relationship, said she wasn’t speaking out to “bring down this man,” and added, “I’m talking about my love story.” Her love story included claims that she and Allen had threesomes with at least three other women, including Farrow. Engelhardt also suggested that she was the inspiration for Allen’s Manhattan, in which his character slept with a 17-year-old played by Mariel Hemingway. (In 2015, Hemingway claimed Allen tried to seduce her as a teen.)
Griffin wasn’t alone in her bold reaction to the latest headline about Allen. Judd Apatow and Soledad O’Brien didn’t hold back either.
Parents know the maturity level of a sixteen year old. This isn’t about the morals of the 70’s, it’s taking advantage of someone. It’s sick and demented and abusive. https://t.co/gn6gWiJMEA
Neither Allen nor Farrow, who ended their relationship in 1992, provided comment to the Hollywood Reporter about Engelhardt’s claims. They didn’t respond to our request for comment either.
We also reached out about Griffin’s tweet and will post a response if we’re given one.
Woody Allen with celebrities through the years
Woody Allen with celebrities through the years
Director Woody Allen (2ndL) and cast members Blake Lively (L), Kristen Stewart (C), and Jesse Eisenberg (2ndR) and Cannes Film festival president Pierre Lescure pose on the red carpet as they arrive for the opening ceremony and the screening of the film "Cafe Society" out of competition during the 69th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, France, May 11, 2016. REUTERS/Yves Herman
Director Woody Allen (C), cast members Emma Stone (L) and Parker Posey pose on the red carpet as they arrive for the screening of the film "Irrational Man" out of competition at the 68th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, southern France, May 15, 2015. REUTERS/Benoit Tessier
Director Woody Allen (C), cast members Blake Lively (R) and Kristen Stewart pose during a photocall for the film "Cafe Society" out of competition, before the opening of the 69th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, France, May 11, 2016. REUTERS/Eric Gaillard
Director Woody Allen and cast members Penelope Cruz (2nd L), Greta Gerwig (L) and Alison Pill pose at the premiere of "To Rome with Love" during the opening night of the Los Angeles Film Festival at the Regal Cinemas in Los Angeles, California June 14, 2012. The movie opens limitedly in the U.S. on June 22. REUTERS/Mario Anzuoni (UNITED STATES - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
U.S. film director Woody Allen (C) poses with actors Adrien Brody (L), Owen Wilson (2ndL), Rachel McAdams (2ndR) and Michael Sheen (R) as they arrive for the screening of their film "Midnight in Paris" and for the opening ceremony of the 64th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes May 11, 2011. Twenty films compete at the May 11 to 22 cinema showcase with an impressive roll call of major screen stars, revered "auteur" directors and relative newcomers. REUTERS/Vincent Kessler (FRANCE - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
Director Woody Allen (R) arrives with cast member Lea Seydoux for the screening of "Midnight In Paris" and for the opening ceremony of the 64th Cannes Film Festival in Cannes, May 11, 2011. Twenty films compete at the May 11 to 22 cinema showcase with an impressive roll call of major screen stars, revered "auteur" directors and relative newcomers. REUTERS/Christian Hartmann (FRANCE - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
Director Woody Allen (L) and cast member Naomi Watts (R) arrive on the red carpet for the screening of the film "You will meet a tall dark stranger" at the 63rd Cannes Film Festival May 15, 2010. REUTERS/Eric Gaillard (FRANCE - Tags: ENTERTAINMENT)
U.S. film director Woody Allen (C), Spanish actress Penelope Cruz (L) and actor Javier Bardem pose during a photocall to promote Allen's latest film "Vicky Cristina Barcelona", in Barcelona September 20, 2008. REUTERS/Gustau Nacarino (SPAIN)
Actress Scarlett Johansson, star of director Woody Allen's new film "Vicky Cristina Barcelona", poses with Allen at the film's premiere in Los Angeles August 4, 2008. REUTERS/Fred Prouser (UNITED STATES)
American actress Debra Messing (R) holds American director Woody Allen's head during a photocall for Allen's film "Hollywood Ending" at the 55th International Film Festival in Cannes, May 15, 2002. [Twenty-two films are in competition for the prestigious Palme d'Or at the film jamboree on the French Riviera which begins today with the out of competition screening of "Hollywood Ending". ]
Director Woody Allen poses with Mariel Hemingway (L) and Kirstie Alley stars from the ensemble of his new film "Deconstructing Harry" in Los Angeles, December 5. The film about a Manhattan writer's creative and erotic life stars an ensemble cast including [Demi Moore, Billy Crystal, and Elisabeth Shue.]
CIRCA 1996: Actor Edward Norton and actress Drew Barrymore listens to director Woody Allen on the set of the Miramax movie 'Everyone Says I Love You' circa 19961. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
UNITED KINGDOM - CIRCA 1991: Woody Allen With Helena Bonham, Carter At 'Woody Allen' Performs With The New Orleans Jazz Band (Photo by Dave Benett/Getty Images)
Don't Drink the Water - 1994: (L-R) Michael J. Fox, Mayim Bialik, Woody Allen on 'Don't Drink the Water' movie set. (Photo by Brian Hamill/ABC via Getty Images)