Sarah Silverman says pal Louis C.K. masturbated in front of her too: 'Yeah, I want to see that. It was like science'

Sarah Silverman got candid about her longtime friendship with Louis C.K. in a new interview on the Howard Stern Show on Monday. In it, she admitted that he had masturbated in front of her, too. However, she didn’t have the same feelings about it that the multiple women who accused him of sexual misconduct did and likely still do.

While the star of Hulu’s I Love You, America With Sarah Silverman said during the interview that what her “brother” C.K. did to his accusers “was wrong,” she admitted, “It’s all very black and white until it comes to your front door and the bad guy is someone you love.” She went on to say she doesn’t think he should be lumped in with “serial rapist Bill Cosby” or Harvey Weinstein. “His pathology is permission based,” she said. “I’m not saying it’s okay because once he got famous, even just in the comedy community, that changes everything and it makes it not OK.” However, she noted, he took responsibility for his behavior, apologized (though that was even controversial), and wants to make it right — versus the men who “deny, deny, deny” accusations against them, she said, citing Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh.

Silverman — who noted in the interview multiple times that comedians are “freaks,” “freaky,” and “perverted” — seemed to surprise even Stern when she went on to say that C.K. asked her permission to masturbate in front of her. “I’m going to regret saying this, but I’ve known him forever. I’m not making excuses for him. Please don’t take that this way. We are peers. We are equals,” she prefaced. “So when we were kids and he asked if he could masturbate in front of me, sometimes I’d go, ‘F*** yeah. I want to see that. Yeah. It was like science!”

Silverman said you can’t compare her to C.K.’s accusers “because he could offer me nothing,” suggesting he had no power over her. “We were only just friends. So, sometimes, yeah, I wanted to see it. It was amazing. Sometimes I’d be like: F***ing gross, no, and we’d get pizza. I’m not saying what he did was OK. At a certain point, when he became influential in the world of comedy, it changes. He realized it.” But, she said, “he realized it later.”

Stern asked if she found the situation uncomfortable, but she said that the first penis she ever saw in her life was in a non-consensual situation — and that was scarring. She was an 18-year-old virgin working at a Mexican restaurant when he boss called her into his office and exposed himself and masturbated in front of her. She didn’t view the experience with C.K., her friend, as a violating one, like that. While C.K. had once asked her out, she admitted, they “established early on that we were bros, we were friends.”

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HOLLYWOOD, CA - FEBRUARY 28: Comedian Louis C.K. poses in the press room during the 88th Annual Academy Awards at Loews Hollywood Hotel on February 28, 2016 in Hollywood, California. (Photo by C Flanigan/FilmMagic)
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE -- 'Louis C.K.' Episode 1683 -- Pictured: (l-r) Bobby Moynihan as Frank and Louis C.K. as Tom during the 'Forgotten TV Gems' skit on May 16, 2015 -- (Photo by: Dana Edelson/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS -- Episode 204 -- Pictured: (l-r) Comedian Louis C.K. during an interview with host Seth Meyers on May 11, 2015 -- (Photo by: Lloyd Bishop/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
PASADENA, CA - JANUARY 18: Creator/writer/actor Louis C.K. speaks onstage during the 'Louie' panel discussion at the FX Networks portion of the Television Critics Association press tour at Langham Hotel on January 18, 2015 in Pasadena, California. (Photo by Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images)
AUSTIN, TX - SEPTEMBER 21: Louis CK performs during the Funny Or Die Oddball Comedy Festival at the Austin360 Amphitheater on September 21, 2014 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Gary Miller/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - AUGUST 25: Louis C.K. poses in the press room at the 66th annual Primetime Emmy Awards at Nokia Theatre L.A. Live on August 25, 2014 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Jason LaVeris/FilmMagic)
ATLANTA, GA - AUGUST 10: Louis C.K. performs during the Funny Or Die Oddball Comedy & Curiosity Festival at Aaron's Amphitheatre on August 10, 2014 in Atlanta, Georgia. (Photo by Chris McKay/Getty Images)
THE TONIGHT SHOW STARRING JIMMY FALLON -- Episode 0056 -- Pictured: (l-r) Comedian Louis C.K. during an interview with host Jimmy Fallon on May 12, 2014 -- (Photo by: Douglas Gorenstein/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)..
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE -- 'Louis C.K.' Episode 1657 -- Pictured: (l-r) Mike O'Brien, Louis C.K. -- (Photo by: NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - JULY 22: Louis C.K. and Andrew Dice Clay attend the 'Blue Jasmine' New York Premiere at MOMA on July 22, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by Stephen Lovekin/Getty Images)
BEVERLY HILLS, CA - JANUARY 11: Louis C.K. attends the 13th Annual AFI Awards at Four Seasons Los Angeles at Beverly Hills on January 11, 2013 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Frazer Harrison/Getty Images)
SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE -- 'Louis C.K.' Episode 1626 -- Pictured: (l-r) Fred Armisen, Kenan Thompson, Kate McKinnon, Bobby Moynihan, Louis C.K. -- (Photo by: Dana Edelson/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 23: Louis C.K. poses in the press room at the 64th Primetime Emmy Awards held at Nokia Theatre L.A. Live on September 23, 2012 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Dan MacMedan/WireImage)
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO -- Episode 4277 -- Pictured: Comedian Louis Ck during an interview on June 25, 2012 -- (Photo by: Stacie McChesney/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - APRIL 28: Chris Rock presents award to Louis CK on stage at The Comedy Awards 2012 at Hammerstein Ballroom on April 28, 2012 in New York City. (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO -- Episode 4166 -- Pictured: Comedian Louis CK during an interview on December 14, 2011 -- Photo by: Paul Drinkwater/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 26: Comedian Louis C.K. speaks onstage at the First Annual Comedy Awards at Hammerstein Ballroom on March 26, 2011 in New York City. (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty Images)
PARK CITY, UT - JANUARY 30: Presenter Louis C.K. speaks onstage at the Awards Night Ceremony during the 2010 Sundance Film Festival at Racquet Club on January 30, 2010 in Park City, Utah. (Photo by Fred Hayes/Getty Images)
Comedian Louis C.K. performs on stage at 'The Nasty Show' during TBS presents A Very Funny Festival: Just For Laughs on June 19, 2009 in Chicago, Illinois. 18469_BB_1733.JPG (Photo by Barry Brecheisen/WireImage)
Comedian Louis C.K. performs at the Comedy Theater during Bonnaroo 2008 on June 14, 2008 in Manchester, Tennessee. (Photo by Jason Merritt/FilmMagic)
Chris Rock and Louis CK during 'I Think I Love My Wife' Los Angeles Premiere - Red Carpet at ArcLight Cinemas in Hollywood, California, United States. (Photo by Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic, Inc for Variety Magazine)
Louis C.K. during HBO & AEG Live's 'The Comedy Festival' - 'For Adults Only' Hosted by Bob Saget at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States. (Photo by Jason Merritt/FilmMagic)
Louis CK during 'Entourage' Season Three New York Premiere - Arrivals at Skirball Center for the Performing Arts at NYU in New York City, New York, United States. (Photo by Michael Loccisano/FilmMagic)
Louis C.K. during The 10th Annual U.S. Comedy Arts Festival - Behind the Scenes of Pootie Tang at St. Regis Hotel Ballroom in Aspen, Colorado, United States. ***Exclusive*** (Photo by Jeff Kravitz/FilmMagic, Inc)
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO -- Episode 2241 -- Pictured: (l-r) Comedian Louis C.K. during an interview with host Jay Leno on April 9, 2002 -- (Photo by: Paul Drinkwater/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN -- Episode 21 -- Pictured: (l-r) Comedian Louis C.K. during an interview with host Conan O'Brien on October 11, 1993 (Photo by: Norman Ng/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN -- Episode 14 -- Pictured: (far right) Robert Smigel and Louis C.K. perform in the 'Conan the ----arian' sketch on September 30, 1993 (Photo by: Lesly Weiner/Network/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
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Silverman, who says she hasn’t spoken to C.K. in three months, said there was a lot of funny business going on in their orbit as young comics anyway. She told another story of a time when they stripped naked, threw their clothes off a roof, and then took the elevator down — completely nude — to get them.

Silverman said she — another other comedians — are constantly asked about C.K., and felt she should just be candid. As for whether he should have a comeback, “I believe he has remorse. I believe he can come back. I just want him to talk about it onstage,” she said. However, “Comics don’t like to be told what to do, so he’s just going to have to find his way or not find his way and people are going to watch him or not watch him.”

Nearly a year ago, in November, five women accused Louis C.K. of sexual misconduct in a piece published by the New York Times. Most of his accusers said that he’d invited them into his hotel room and then masturbated in front of them. C.K. admitted soon after that the claims were true.

Silverman’s sister later tweeted that C.K. masturbated in front of her, fully naked, about 20 times.

 

Like her sister, she didn’t view it as a criminal act.

 

They had briefly dated prior to that.

 

C.K. has slowly been taking steps toward returning to comedy. During a recent show, he said that he’d been to “hell and back” since his sexual misconduct scandal and “lost $35 million.”

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