George Takei: Donald Trump attended 'beautiful' gay marriage yet won't support it

Donald Trump, in His Own Words

George Takei says he once had a fascinating conversation about gay marriage with Donald Trump and, on Monday, the Star Trek legend recounted the details to MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell.

"I challenged him to have lunch with me so that we can discuss marriage equality," he recalled of a Celebrity Apprentice press conference two years ago. "He did accept, and we had that lunch. When I again met him, he said, 'You know what, George? I just came from a gay marriage' -- he had come from a wedding of a very important Broadway personality, Jordan Roth [who wed producer Richie Jackson]. ... He told me, 'They're good friends of mine. It was a beautiful marriage. They're wonderful friends.'"

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LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 17: George Takei attends the press conference for The Japanese American National Museum's exhibition 'Instructions To All Persons: Reflections On Executive Order 9066' at Japanese American National Museum on February 17, 2017 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Gabriel Olsen/Getty Images)
PHILADELPHIA, PA - AUGUST 20: Actor George Takei attends 'Star Trek: The Exhibition' at The Franklin Institute Science Museum on August 20, 2009 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Lisa Lake/Getty Images)
The space shuttle orbiter OV-101, aka 'Enterprise', is unveiled at the NASA/Rockwell International Space Division assembly plant at Palmdale, California, in the presence of the cast of hit tv show 'Star Trek', 17th September 1976. From left to right, NASA administrator Dr. James C. Fletcher, actors DeForest Kelley, George Takei, Nichelle Nichols, Leonard Nimoy, series creator Gene Roddenberry and actor Walter Koenig. (Photo by Space Frontiers/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CA - JULY 11: George Takei attends the 3rd Annual Sports Humanitarian Of The Year Awards at The Novo by Microsoft on July 11, 2017 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Tommaso Boddi/WireImage)
LOS ANGELES, CA - FEBRUARY 17: George Takei attends the press conference for The Japanese American National Museum's exhibition 'Instructions To All Persons: Reflections On Executive Order 9066' at Japanese American National Museum on February 17, 2017 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Gabriel Olsen/Getty Images)
BEVERLY HILLS, CA - FEBRUARY 06: Presenter George Takei speaks onstage at AARP's 16th Annual Movies For Grownups Awards at the Beverly Wilshire Four Seasons Hotel on February 6, 2017 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Earl Gibson III/Getty Images)
BEVERLY HILLS, CA - FEBRUARY 06: Actor George Takei attends AARP's 16th annual Movies For Grownups Awards at the Beverly Wilshire Four Seasons Hotel on February 6, 2017 in Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Jason LaVeris/FilmMagic)
CULVER CITY, CA - DECEMBER 02: Actors George Takei (L) and Masi Oka introduce The Fray onstage during the VH1 Big in '06 Awards held at Sony Studios on December 2, 2006 in Culver City, California. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
UNIVERSAL CITY, CA - APRIL 27: Actors John Cho (L) and George Takei, each who has portrayed Hikaru Sulu in 'Star Trek,' attend the 43rd Anniversary Visionary Awards at the Hilton Los Angeles/Universal City hotel on April 27, 2009 in Universal City, California. (Photo by David Livingston/Getty Images)
Actor George Takei (2nd L) (the 'Sulu' charactor on 'Star Trek') and partner Brad Altman (L) after they were married at the Japanese American National Museum on September 14, 2008 in Los Angeles. Fellow 'Star Trek' actors Walter Koenig (2nd R) and Nichelle Nichols (R) who participated in the ceremony follow. AFP PHOTO/Stan HONDA (Photo credit should read STAN HONDA/AFP/Getty Images)
UNITED STATES - AUGUST 29: The James Doohan Farewell Star Trek Convention and Tribute at the Renaissance Hotel in Hollywood, United States on August 29, 2004 - Walter Koenig and George Takei. (Photo by Mike FANOUS/Gamma-Rapho via Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - JUNE 4: George Takei as Commander Hikaru Sul in the movie, 'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.' Release date, June 4, 1982. Image is a screen grab. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)
Canadian actor William Shatner, AMerican George Takei, Nichelle Nichols and Robert Hooks on the set of Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, directed by Leonard Nimoy. (Photo by Paramount Pictures/Sunset Boulevard/Corbis via Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - JUNE 4: From left: George Takei as Commander Hikaru Sul and William Shatner as Admiral James T. Kirk in the movie, 'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.' Release date, June 4, 1982. Image is a screen grab. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)
DECEMBER 7: Actors George Takei, James Doohan, Grace Lee Whitney, Nichelle Nichols, Stephen Collins, DeForest Kelley, Majel Barrett, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, Persis Khambatta, Walter Koenig pose for a portrait during the filming of the movie 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' which was released December 27, 1979 in the United States. (Photo by Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - JUNE 4: From left: Nichelle Nichols as Commander Uhura, DeForest Kelley as Dr. Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, George Takei as Commander Hikaru Sulu in the movie, 'Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.' Release date, June 4, 1982. Image is a screen grab. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - JANUARY 3: From left: James Doohan as Chief Engineer Montgomery 'Scotty' Scott, DeForest Kelley as Dr. Leonard H. McCoy and George Takei as Lieutenant Hikaru Sulu on the Star Trek: The Original Series episode, 'Whom Gods Destroy.' Originally aired January 3, 1969. Image is a screen grab. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)
Actors George Takei, Stephen Collins, Majel Barrett, Persis Khambatta, Grace Lee Whitney, William Shatner, James Doohan, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, Walter Koenig and Michelle Nichols on the set of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, directed by Robert Wise. (Photo by Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation/Sunset Boulevard/Corbis via Getty Images)
American actor George Takei appears as Sulu in a scene from 'The Man Trap,' the premiere episode of 'Star Trek,' which aired on September 8, 1966. (Photo by CBS Photo Archive/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES - SEPTEMBER 22: Sally Kellerman as Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, James Doohan as Montgomery 'Scotty' Scott, Paul Fix as Dr. Mark Piper and George Takei as Lt. Sulu in the STAR TREK episode, 'Where No Man Has Gone Before.' Season 1, Episode 3. Original air date, September 22, 1966. Image is a frame grab. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)
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Yet when Takei asked Trump why he can't then support same-sex marriage, especially if he attends them, "he said, 'Well, I'm for traditional marriage,' and we had a long discussion over lunch. We finally agreed to disagree -- he was for traditional marriage, despite the fact that he'd been married three times. That is not traditional."

"I approve of his three-time marriage because you want to find the person that you love, but the important thing here is to understand that our democracy is a dynamic democracy, and our Constitution is a living document, it's not carved in stone," Takei continued.

"I think Donald Trump's interpretation of marriage is something that he himself doesn't really believe in. 'Traditional marriage' is where two people love each other, commit to each other, care for each other over the years. It is a meaningful ceremony, and his interpretation of that is not recognizing what real marriage is."

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Donald Trump, president and chief executive officer of Trump Organization Inc., speaks during the Iowa Freedom Summit in Des Moines, Iowa, U.S., on Saturday, Jan. 24, 2015. The talent show that is a presidential campaign began in earnest Saturday as more than 1,200 Republican activists who probably will vote in Iowa's caucuses packed into a historic Des Moines theater to see and hear from a parade of their party's prospective entries. Photographer: Daniel Acker/Bloomberg via Getty Images
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