Barry Bonds refused to participate in Ken Burns' 'The Tenth Inning'

Ken Burns may love baseball, and he's done more than any public figure to define its story for future generations, but he has bad news for you about it: It's always been corrupt.

It goes way back before the controversies over Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, and Roger Clemens. It even goes past the infamous Chicago Black Sox of 1918. It is, Burns points out, intrinsic to the game. After all, in baseball, stealing a base is considered fair play. He sat down with me ahead of the premiere of PBS's The Tenth Inning on Tuesday, September 28.