Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway explains what a lie is

Donald Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Monday that she doesn't think Trump lied when he called debate moderator Lester Holt a Democrat.

Trump recently said that Holt was a Democrat when discussing media bias, but it was then revealed that the "NBC Nightly News" anchor is actually a registered Republican.

"A lie would mean he knew the man's party registration," Conway said.

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Bloomberg Politics host Mark Halperin, who was also on the morning show, brought up the conversation, asking, "How could he say such a thing that just black-and white factually incorrect?"

Conway pivoted by saying the media is filled with Democrats.

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"I'm asking about a very specific thing," Halperin said. "He made a factual claim about the moderator who deserves the right to be treated fairly and it was just wrong. And it's a metaphor for his frequently in public stating things with no basis, that are wrong."

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Conway responded by calling it a "terrible and irrelevant example" because she was "appalled" by the treatment Matt Lauer received when he moderated a recent NBC town hall event.

Halperin pressed for Conway to explain why Trump called Holt a Democrat when he didn't actually know, but the two never came to an agreement before the show went to a commercial break.

"He didn't lie," Conway said. "A lie would mean he knew the man's party registration."

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