There's no modern equivalent to Hedda Hopper, the power-mad gossip-monger played by Helen Mirren in "Trumbo," about the screenwriter who was a victim of her poison pen.
Hopper ruled with an iron phrase, and during the Joseph McCarthy era, she named suspected Hollywood communists in her widely-read column -- ruining careers, destroying lives, all in the name of a perverted version of democracy. She's played with steely manipulation by Oscar winner Mirren, who relished being the bad guy of the movie.
"I think she was terrifying although she was obviously very, very charming," says Mirren, of Hopper. "I'm sure she did manipulate. She did have power and she certainly had venom. She was very conscious of the fact that she was ruthless. You know your business better than I do. There is a side of journalism that is utterly ruthless. It's all about the story. She found herself ultimately on the wrong side of history."
Mirren, who has bagged the triple-crown of acting (Oscar, Tony and Emmy), got her start doing theater in England and joined the Royal Shakespeare Company in the '60s. Which means she's been answering interview questions for going on 50 years. She's blunt, very funny (mocking what she calls her "fat knees" -- which, spoiler alert, are shapely) and unfazed by just about anything.
"I started having to handle the media when I was in my early 20s and it has never stopped. Because of that, I've witnessed an enormous change. I was never afraid of the media. I was never particularly guarded, often to my detriment. Often, I put my foot in it," she smiles. "On the other hand, I thought it was sort of boring that you were so guarded that you never said anything to anyone," says Mirren. "We're in a symbiotic relationship. You have to get people into the cinema. We need to have an audience. I see it as part of my job."
That being said, there's one story that still stands out.
"The most annoying thing ever written about me was early in my career. I was doing Shakespeare in England in a town called Stratford-on-Avon and I was called the sex queen of Stratford. It was my very first interview that I'd ever done in my life and that was the headline. That headline stayed with me for my whole career," says Mirren. "If I saw that journalist, I'd give him a Hedda Hopper talking-to."
Mirren is a fan of Spanx. She likes Justin Bieber. And she doesn't fixate on what's written about her -- except for that aforementioned story that labeled her the sex kitten of the stage.
"Quite honestly, I don't take note. Sometimes, I've said things in the wrong way. Very often, things are taken out of context. The context within which you say something is so important. You can lift something out and it looks shocking or controversial. If you read the whole thing, you realize it's neither shocking nor controversial," says Mirren.
It's why she's not on Twitter or Instagram, preferring to avoid that whole morass.
"People can be led by the nose so easily. The mob mentality is so dangerous. People jump on the bandwagon and follow the mob so easily. That's why I'm not on social media. I don't like the tendency of social media to do that," says Mirren. "It really worries me."
And she can't imagine starting her career today, when every move a Bieber makes is chronicled, mocked and scrutinized.
"I call it 'torture the teenager.' These people are so young and they're so exposed. They're trying to live their lives. I don't believe in torturing the teenager," she says.
Back in her 20s, "I could go to a bar and get drunk and sleep on a park bench overnight and nobody knew!" she says.
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NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 07: Helen Mirren, winner of the award for Best Lead Actress in a Play for 'The Audience,' poses in the press room during the 2015 Tony Awards at Radio City Music Hall on June 7, 2015 in New York City. (Photo by Jemal Countess/Getty Images for Tony Awards Productions)
NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 07: Helen Mirren accepts the award for Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Play for ÂThe AudienceÂ onstage during the 2015 Tony Awards at Radio City Music Hall on June 7, 2015 in New York City. (Photo by Theo Wargo/Getty Images for Tony Awards Productions)
FILE - This June 3, 2014 file photo shows British actress Helen Mirren at the Glamour Magazine Women Of The Year Awards at Berkeley Square Gardens in central London. Producers of Peter Morgan's play said Wednesday, Aug. 6, that Mirren will return to Broadway this spring as Elizabeth II in "The Audience." Previews in New York start Feb. 17 and it will run through June at the Gerald Schoenfeld Theatre, directed by two-time Tony Award winner Stephen Daldry. (Photo by Joel Ryan/Invision/AP, File)
Megan Ellison, Helen Mirren and David O. Russell in the audience at the 25th annual Producers Guild of America (PGA) Awards at the Beverly Hilton Hotel on Sunday, Jan. 19, 2014, in Beverly Hills, Calif. (Photo by John Shearer/Invision for Producers Guild/AP Images)
"House Full" sign for The Audience with Helen Mirren at Gielgud Theatre, London
LONDON, ENGLAND - MARCH 05: (EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION IN UK TABLOID NEWSPAPERS UNTIL 48 HOURS AFTER CREATE DATE AND TIME. MANDATORY CREDIT PHOTO BY DAVE M. BENETT/GETTY IMAGES REQUIRED) Dame Helen Mirren (C) bows at the curtain call during the press night performance of 'The Audience' at the Gielgud Theatre on March 5, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Dave M. Benett/Getty Images)
LONDON, ENGLAND - MARCH 05: (EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION IN UK TABLOID NEWSPAPERS UNTIL 48 HOURS AFTER CREATE DATE AND TIME. MANDATORY CREDIT PHOTO BY DAVE M. BENETT/GETTY IMAGES REQUIRED) Dame Helen Mirren bows at the curtain call during the press night performance of 'The Audience' at the Gielgud Theatre on March 5, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Dave M. Benett/Getty Images)
FILE - This is a Sunday, April 28, 2013 file photo of Helen Mirren winner of Best Actress Award for The Audience in the press room at the Olivier Awards 2013 at the Royal opera House in London. Mirren's award-winning performance as Queen Elizabeth II in "The Audience" will be beamed this week from London's Gielgud Theatre to hundreds of movie theaters around the world in a live broadcast. (Photo by Joel Ryan/Invision/AP, File)
This undated file image provided by Boneau/Bryan-Brown shows Helen Mirren as Queen Elizabeth II in a promotional photo for Peter Morgan's play "The Audience." National Theatre Live, which broadcasts stage shows from England to movie screens worldwide, said Monday, June 17, 2013, that its June 13 live broadcast of Mirren as Queen Elizabeth II in the play "The Audience" has captured its largest audience to date. (AP Photo/Boneau/Bryan-Brown, Johan Persson, File)
Helen Mirren winner of Best Actress Award for The Audience seen in the press room at the Olivier Awards 2013 at the Royal opera House in London on Sunday, April 28th, 2013. (Photo by Joel Ryan/Invision/AP)
LONDON, ENGLAND - MARCH 05: (EMBARGOED FOR PUBLICATION IN UK TABLOID NEWSPAPERS UNTIL 48 HOURS AFTER CREATE DATE AND TIME. MANDATORY CREDIT PHOTO BY DAVE M. BENETT/GETTY IMAGES REQUIRED) Dame Helen Mirren attends an after party following the press night performance of 'The Audience' at One Whitehall Place on March 5, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Dave M. Benett/Getty Images)
LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM - MAY 09: Dame Helen Mirren sighting leaving the Geilgud Theatre following her performance in The Audience on May 9, 2013 in London, England. (Photo by Alan Chapman/FilmMagic)
British actress Helen Mirren, right, reacts to a sign addressed to her following a ceremony to award her a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, Thursday, Jan. 3, 2013, in Los Angeles. (Photo by Chris Pizzello/Invision/AP)
Actress Helen Mirren talks to the audience at the Santa Barbara International Film Festival, Friday, Jan. 26, 2007, as recipient of the festival's Outstanding Performance of the Year Award for her Best Actress Oscar-nominated role in the film "The Queen." (AP Photo/Michael A. Mariant)
Actress Helen Mirren signs autographs at her Hollywood Walk of Fame Ceremony on January 3, 2013 in Hollywood, California. (Photo by Todd Williamson/Invision for Fox Searchlight/AP Images)