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Jill and Jessa Duggar Confirm They Were Molested by Josh Duggar

NEW YORK (AP) -- Two of reality TV's Duggar sisters fondled by their brother Josh say they weren't even aware it had happened until he confessed and their parents told them about it.

Jill and Jessa Duggar, part of the family featured in TLC's "19 Kids and Counting," were two of the four sisters whom Josh Duggar touched inappropriately a dozen years ago. They talked about it with Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly in an interview set to air Friday night, and the network made excerpts available early.

Jessa Duggar said that her brother was "a young boy in puberty" who was "a little too curious about girls."

In the wake of the incidents, the sisters said the parents restricted the children from playing games like hide and seek and placed locks on bedrooms where the girls and boys slept.

Jessa Duggar said that she wanted to defend her brother against people who are calling him a child molester, pedophile or rapist. She said people can get mad at her for saying that this is overboard, "but I can say this because I was one of the victims."

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TODAY -- Pictured: (l-r) Michelle Duggar and Jim Bob Duggar appear on NBC News' 'Today' show (Photo by Peter Kramer/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: AJ Calloway (C) poses with (L-R) Jessa Duggar, Jinger Duggar, Jill Duggar, and Jana Duggar during their visit to 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
TODAY -- Pictured: (l-r) Michelle Duggar, Jim Bob Duggar and Kate Upton appear on NBC News' 'Today' show (Photo by Peter Kramer/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
TODAY -- Pictured: (l-r) James Duggar, Michelle Duggar and Matt Lauer appear on NBC News' 'Today' show (Photo by Peter Kramer/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: Josh Duggar visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: (R-L) AJ Calloway and Hilaria Baldwin interview Josh Duggar and his daughter during their visit with 'Extra' in Times Square on March 11, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: Hilaria Baldwin (R) interviews Josh Duggar and his daughter during their visit with 'Extra' in Times Square on March 11, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
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NEW YORK, NY - OCTOBER 23: Jill Duggar Dillard (L) and husband Derick Dillard visit 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on October 23, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - OCTOBER 23: (L-R) AJ Calloway interviews Jill Duggar Dillard and husband Derick Dillard during their visit to 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on October 23, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
FILE - In this March 14, 2014 file photo, Rev. Mark Harris, right, who is seeking a Republican U.S. Senate nomination in the upcoming North Carolina primary, is supported during a campaign event by Jim Bob Duggar, left, and his wife, Michelle Duggar, center, in Raleigh, N.C. The Duggars have 19 children and star in a reality TV show. (AP Photo/Ted Richardson)
FILE - In this March 14, 2014 file photo, Rev. Mark Harris, left, who is seeking a Republican U.S. Senate nomination in the upcoming North Carolina primary, was supported during a campaign event by Michelle Duggar, kneeling, and Jim Bob Duggar, back right, and many of the Duggar's 19 children, in Raleigh, N.C., The Duggars star in a reality TV show. (AP Photo/Ted Richardson)
In this Aug. 2, 2007 file photo, Michelle Duggar, left, is surrounded by her children and husband Jim Bob, third from right after the birth of her 17th child in Rogers, Ark. The Duggars announced on Friday, May 9, 2008 that they are expecting their 18th child. (AP Photo/ Beth Hall, File)
In this Aug. 2, 2007 file photo, Michelle Duggar, left, is surrounded by her children and husband Jim Bob, tsecond from left, after the birth of her 17th child in Rogers, Ark. The Duggars announced on Friday, May 9, 2008 that they are expecting their 18th child. (AP Photo/ Beth Hall, File)
Jim Bob Duggar, top left, watches as his twin sons, Jedidiah and Jeremiah, both 9, Jordyn-Grace Makiya and mother, Michelle, pose for a photo taken by Josiah, right, 12, on Friday, Dec. 19, 2008, in Rogers, Ark. Jordyn-Grace Makiya is the 18th child born into the Duggar family on Dec. 18, 2008. The cable network TLC broadcasts a weekly show about the Duggars, called "Seventeen and Counting." (AP Photo/Beth Hall)
FILE - In this Dec. 19, 2008 file picture, Michelle Duggar holds her newborn daughter, Jordyn-Grace Makiya in Rogers, Ark. No. 19 caught Michelle Duggar by surprise. The 42-year-old mom of 18 noticed that she wasn't losing weight, even though she and husband Jim Bob were on Weight Watchers, and her youngest child, 8-month-old Jordyn-Grace, was fussing while nursing. In the past, she found a fussy infant meant a change in breast milk that came with pregnancy. (AP Photo/Beth Hall)
Arkansas state Rep. Jim Bob Duggar of Springdale front center, and his wife Michelle, right, lead twelve of their thirteen children to a polling place in Springdale, Ark., in this Tuesday, May 21, 2002 file photo. Duggar was running for the U.S. Senate against incumbant Tim Hutchinson in the republican primary election. Dugger's sons Jason, 2, is pictured left, followed by Josiah, 5. (AP Photo/April L. Brown)
FILE - In a Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007 file photo, Michelle Duggar, left, is surrounded by her children and husband Jim Bob, top left, while she holds her newborn daughter, and 17th child, Jennifer Danielle, in Rogers, Ark. Michelle Duggar, the 42-year-old Arkansas mom of 18 and a soon-to-be grandmother, is pregnant again, she said Tuesday, Sept. 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Beth Hall, File)
Michelle Duggar, left, is surrounded by her children and husband Jim Bob, top left, while she holds her newborn daughter, Jennifer Danielle, Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007 in Rogers, Ark. Jennifer Danielle was born at 10:01 a.m., weighed 8 lbs 8 oz, was 21 inches long, and is the 17th child born to Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar. (AP Photo/Beth Hall)
GOOD MORNING AMERICA - One of America's largest families, the Duggars, talk about their new book on GOOD MORNING AMERICA, 3/11/14, airing on the ABC Television Network. They are pictured in GMA's Social Square with Dan Harris. (Photo by Ida Mae Astute/ABC via Getty Images) DUGGAR FAMILY, DAN HARRIS
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: AJ Calloway (L) interviews the Duggar family during their visit to 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
WOODBRIDGE, VA - OCTOBER 16: Reality telvision celebrities, Jim Bob Duggar, center, and his wife, Michelle Duggar make a stop on their 'Values Bus Tour' outside Heritage Baptist Church on Wednesday October 16, 2013 in Woodbridge, VA. (Photo by Matt McClain/ The Washington Post via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: The Duggar family visits 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: (L-R) Jessa Duggar, Jinger Duggar, Jill Duggar, and Jana Duggar visit 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: AJ Calloway (L) poses with Jim Bob Duggar (R) and wife Michelle Duggar during their visit to 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: Hilaria Baldwin (R) interviews Josh Duggar and his daughter during their visit with 'Extra' in Times Square on March 11, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
TODAY -- Pictured: The Duggar Family appears on NBC News' 'Today show (Photo by Peter Kramer/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NY - MARCH 11: AJ Calloway (L) interviews the Duggar family during their visit to 'Extra' at their New York studios at H&M in Times Square on March 11, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by D Dipasupil/Getty Images for Extra)
Michelle Duggar holds her newborn daughter, Jennifer Danielle, who was born at 10:01 a.m. on Thursday, Aug. 2, 2007 in Rogers, Ark. Jennifer Danielle weighed 8 lbs 8 oz, was 21 inches long, and is the 17th child born to Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar. (AP Photo/Beth Hall)
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"He made some bad choices," she said. "But really the extent of it was mild, inappropriate touching, on fully clothed victims, most of it while girls were sleeping."

The Duggars' parents, in an interview with Kelly that aired on Wednesday, acknowledged that Josh had admitted to fondling a babysitter along with the four Duggar sisters. They said they took Josh for counseling. Police investigated the incidents three or four years later after being tipped by someone who knew the family, but filed no charges.

The incidents became public over the past few weeks through news reports about police records on the case, which have since been destroyed.

TLC has taken reruns of "19 Kids and Counting" off the air and said they've made no decision about the future of the show. Hulu also has removed the show from its offerings.

The sisters said it was their choice to speak about the incidents when it made headlines across the country.

"Nobody asked us to do this," Jill Duggar said. "Jessa and I were talking and were like, `Oh my goodness, most of the stuff out there is lies.' It's not the truth. And for the truth's sake, we wanted to come out and set the record straight."

Jill Duggar said that Josh asked them to forgive him after they found out about the fondling.

"We had to make that choice that I think everyone has to make," she said. "My dad explained to us, he said, `you know, there's a difference between forgiveness and trust. That's not the same thing.' You know, you forgive someone and then you have boundaries. Forgiveness with boundaries. And so trust comes later. You know, Josh destroyed that trust at the beginning. And so he had to rebuild that."

The incidents made the Duggars vulnerable to charges of hypocrisy because of their promotion of conservative Christian family values. Their mother, Michelle, recorded a robocall in opposition to a Fayetteville proposal to ban discrimination, raising the idea of transsexuals using bathrooms for women and girls. Until his recent resignation, Josh Duggar worked as a lobbyist for the Family Research Council.

"We are not a perfect family. We are just a family," Jill Duggar said.

"It's right to say, `here's what I believe, here's my values,' even if you've made stupid mistakes or failures," her sister added. "If you've had failures in your past it doesn't mean you can't be changed ... I think the real issue is people are making this sound like it happened yesterday."Di

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