Lisa Kudrow saw the future of reality TV all the way back in 2005

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That's What They Said: Lisa Kudrow On 'The Comeback'
The great Lisa Kudrow stopped by the second annual Vulture Festival today to talk with New York TV critic Matt Zoller Seitz about The Comeback, her prescient HBO mockumentary series whose first season debuted in 2005, back in the pre-Duggar days when reality TV was only a mildly objectionable blight on our culture and not yet the full-blown public-safety risk that it is today. How did she know it would get so bad? Kudrow explains:

"I was just shocked and horrified by reality TV... [In 2005, when The Comeback premiered] there had only been, like, Survivor. Amazing Race was in its second season only and there were no housewives — they had The Osbournes and Anna Nicole Smith and I thought, This can't end well. And unfortunately, it's true for some of those people. I really was thinking, Some people actually won't survive this. And then, sure enough, there were suicides in the years after 2005. I just remember that it was really hard on Friends for the six of us to go through that. And then for these people, the reason it's hard is because [they] think, Oh, maybe I'll like myself a little better if I'm getting positive feedback, which is kind of common... A lot of people just wanted instant fame and would do whatever — vomit and cry on national television, which I had never seen before. I thought, That's the end of the world, the end of civilization. I think it was the end of a certain aspect of our society"

Also, will there ever be a proper Friends reunion? Kudrow, channeling Aunt Sassy, says she doubts it:

"The six of us can't even meet for dinner. We're trying, but we don't all live in the same state. We don't have the same work schedule anymore. We are constantly trying to — 'Wait so when are you in town?' It's crazy. But it's sweet that we're trying, isn't it? And then also I think we would really want Marta [Kauffman] and David [Crane]. If something would happen, they would be the ones to write it, and let's face it — they're busy. So I don't know how or when [it would happen]. And then also, what's that going to be about? Menopause and midlife crisis? I'm not eager to see that."

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Lisa Kudrow saw the future of reality TV all the way back in 2005
FRIENDS -- Season 6 -- Pictured: (l-r) David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani -- (Photo by: NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- Season 10 -- Pictured: Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, David Schwimmer as Dr. Ross Geller (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS - 'The One With The Engagement Picture' -- Episode 5 -- Aired 11/2/2000 -- Pictured (l-r): Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing -- NBCU Photo Bank
This photo released by Warner Bros shows the cast of "Friends" from the final episode which wil air May 6, 2004 on NBC. It was taken in Burbank, Calif, Friday, Jan. 23, 2004. From left are Jennifer Aniston as Rachel, Matt LeBlanc as Joey, David Schwimmer as Ross, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe, Matthew Perry as Chandler and Courteney Cox Arquette as Monica. (AP Photo/Danny Feld, Warner Bros)
The cast of television's "Friends", from left: Matt LeBlanc, Matthew Perry, Lisa Kudrow, Courteney Cox Arquette, Jennifer Aniston and David Schwimmer appear during the 54th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards Sunday, Sept. 22, 2002, at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)
The cast members of the television show "Friends" arrive at New York's Rockefeller Center for NBC's 75th Anniversary event Sunday May 5, 2002. From left: Matthew Perry, Courteney Cox Arquettte, David Schwimmer, Jennifer Aniston and Matt LeBlanc. (AP Photo/Tina Fineberg)
FRIENDS -- Season 6 -- Pictured: (l-r) David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani -- (Photo by: NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- 'The One with the Fake Monica' Episode 21 -- Pictured: (l-r) Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Courteney Cox Arquette as Monica Geller (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- Pictured: (l-r) Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Courteney Cox Arquette as Monica Geller, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani (Photo by Andrew Eccles/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- 'The One After 'I Do' -- Episode 1 -- Aired 09/27/2001 -- Pictured: (l-r) Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller-Bing, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green-- Photo by: Danny Feld/NBCU Photo Bank
FRIENDS -- 'The One With The Christmas In Tulsa' -- Episode 10 -- Aired 12/12/2002 -- Pictured: (l-r) Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Courteney Cox-Arquette as Monica Geller Bing, Lisa Kudrow Phoebe Buffay, David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green -- Photo by: NBCU Photo Bank
FRIENDS -- 'The One Where the Stripper Cries' -- Episode 11 -- Aired 2/5/2004 -- Pictured: (l-r) Courteney Cox Arquette as Monica, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel, Matthew Perry as Chandler -- Photo by: NBCU Photo Bank
FRIENDS -- 'The One With The Boob Job' -- Epsiode 16 -- Aired 2/20/2003 -- Pictured: (l-r) Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Courteney Cox-Arquette as Monica Geller Bing, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing -- Warner Bros. Photo
FRIENDS -- 'The One With Monica And Chandler's Wedding' -- Episode 24 -- Aired 5/17/2001 -- Pictured: (l-r) Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller-Bing, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green -- Photo by: Danny Feld/NBCU Photo Bank
FRIENDS -- 'The One With The Embryos' -- Episode 12 -- Aired 1/15/1998 -- Pictured: (l-r) Matt Le Blanc as Joey Tribbiani, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- Season 2 -- Pictured: (l-r) Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay (Photo by NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- 'The One with the Embryos' Episode 12 -- Pictured: (l-r) Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing (Photo by J. Delvalle/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- 'The One That Could Have Been: Part 1, 2' Episode 15, 16 -- Pictured: (l-r) Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green (Photo by Chris Haston/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
FRIENDS -- 'The One with the Embryos' Episode 12 -- Pictured: (l-r) Matthew Perry as Chandler Bing, Matt LeBlanc as Joey Tribbiani, Courteney Cox as Monica Geller, David Schwimmer as Ross Geller, Debra Jo Rupp as Alice Knight Buffay, Jennifer Aniston as Rachel Green, Giovanni Ribisi as Frank Buffay Jr., Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay (Photo by J. Delvalle/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)
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