WASHINGTON (AP) -- Some teenagers get driving lessons from their parents. Other teens are taught by licensed instructors.
But Malia Obama isn't your average 16-year-old: Her driving lessons were provided by the U.S. Secret Service.
That's what Malia's mother, Michelle Obama, tells celebrity chef and daytime talk-show host Rachael Ray in an interview scheduled to air Thursday.
Mrs. Obama says she hasn't driven herself in seven or eight years and that the armed agents who protect her family refused to let her in the car with her daughter.
The first lady adds that driving gives Malia a "sense of normalcy," like the rest of her friends who are driving.
Mrs. Obama says her kids, including younger daughter Sasha, have to learn how to live like normal kids.
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First lady: Secret Service agents taught Malia how to drive
The first family, second from left to right, Malia Obama, Sasha Obama, President Barack Obama, and first lady Michelle Obama, join host Dwayne Johnson, left, and other performers on the stage singing the Christmas carol during the taping of the annual 2014 Christmas in Washington presentation at the National Building Museum in Washington, Sunday, Dec. 14, 2014. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
Malia Obama, left, and sister Sasha Obama laugh together as they leave a speech by their father President Barack Obama at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala., on the 50th anniversary of âBloody Sunday," a landmark event of the civil rights movement, Saturday, March 7, 2015. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
President Barack Obama, with daughters Sasha, left, and Malia, makes a joke during remarks at the Thanksgiving tradition of saving a turkey from the dinner table with a "presidential pardon," at the White House on Wednesday, Nov. 27, 2013 in Washington. After the pardoning, the turkey travels to George Washington?s Mount Vernon Estate and Gardens where they will be on display for visitors during "Christmas at Mount Vernon." (AP Photo/ Evan Vucci)
President Barack Obama, center, put his arms around his daughters Malia, left, and Sasha's shoulders, right, as they watch watch a basketball game between his brother-in-law Oregon State Beavers Coach Craig Robinson?s team play against the Maryland Terrapins, Sunday, Nov. 17, 2013, at the Comcast Center in College Park, Md. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
President Barack Obama, center, with first lady Michelle Obama, back right, and their daughters Malia, left, and Sasha, arrive at the Comcast Center in College Park, Md., to watch his brother-in-law Oregon State Beavers Coach Craig Robinson?s basketball team play against the Maryland Terrapins, Sunday, Nov. 17, 2013. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
President Barack Obama, second from left, with first lady Michelle Obama, right, and their daughters Malia, left, and Sasha, walk from the White House in Washington to attend a church service Sunday, Oct. 27, 2013, (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
President Barack Obama daughters Malia and Sasha walk up the stairs of Air Force One before departing from Andrews Air Force Base, Md., Wednesday, June 26, 2013. Obama is traveling for their week long trip to Senegal, South Africa, and Tanzania. ( AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)
President Barack Obama, left, with first lady Michelle Obama, right, and their daughters Malia, second from left, and Sasha, back with the first lady, arrive at the White House in Washington, early Thursday, June 20, 2013, from a trip to Ireland and Germany. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
WASHINGTON, DC - DECEMBER 15: (L-R) US President Barack Obama, Sasha Obama, Malia Obama, and First Lady Michelle Obama attend TNT Christmas in Washington 2013 at the National Building Museum on December 15, 2013 in Washington, DC. 24313_004_0297.JPG (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 27: U.S. President Barack Obama's daughters Malia Obama (R), 15, and Sasha Obama, 12, participate in the pardoning of the 2013 National Thanksgiving Turkey, 'Popcorn' on the North Portico of the White House November 27, 2013 in Washington, DC. A 38-pound, full-grown Broad Breasted White domesticated turkey, 'Popcorn' and its alternate 'Caramel' will be sent to live at Mount Vernon, the estate and home of George Washington. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
President Barack Obama pardons the National Thanksgiving Turkey with daughters Sasha and Malia.
US President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama walk with their daughters Sasha and Malia to attend an Easter service at St. John's Church March 31, 2013 in Washington, DC.
White House, Washington DC, USA. 4th September 2012. US President Barack Obama and his daughters, Malia, left, and Sasha watch television in the Treaty Room of the White House as First Lady Michelle Obama addresses the Democratic National Convention September 4, 2012 in Washington, DC
US President Barack Obama hugs his daughters Malia and Sasha before giving his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention September 6, 2012 in Charlotte, NC.
US President Barack Obama disembarks from Air Force One with his daughter Sasha upon arrival at Belfast International Airport, Northern Ireland, on Monday, June 17, 2013. President Obama is in Northern Ireland to attend the G8 Summit in Enniskillen. (AP Photo/ Peter Muhly, Pool)
WASHINGTON, DC - NOVEMBER 27: (AFP OUT) U.S. President Barack Obama's daughters Malia Obama (L), 15 and Sasha Obama, 12, help pack and distribute bags of food to needy children and seniors at the Capital Area Food Bank November 27, 2013 in Washington, DC. According to the White House, the first family was joined by family and friends and members of The Mission Continues, 'an organization of post-9/11 veterans who are awarded community service fellowships.' (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
COLLEGE PARK, MD - NOVEMBER 17: US President Barack Obama with his daughter Malia in their seats during a college basketball game between the Oregon State Beavers and the Maryland Terrapins on November 17, 2013 at the Comcast Center in College Park, Maryland. (Photo by Mitchell Layton/Getty Images)
US President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama walk with daughters Malia (L) and Sasha (2nd R) from the White House, across Lafayette Park to Saint John's Episcopal Church for Sunday services on October 27, 2013 in Washington, DC. AFP PHOTO/Mandel NGAN (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
WEST TISBURY , MA - AUGUST 16: U.S. President Barack Obama (L) his daughter Malia Obama ride a bike during a vacation on Martha's Vineyard August 16, 2013in West Tisbury, Massachusetts. Obama and his family are on a weeklong vacation. (Photo by Rick Friedman-Pool/Getty Images)
US President Barack Obama 's daughters Sasha (R) and Malia visit the Berlin Wall memorial at Bernauer street on June 19, 2013 in Berlin. Obama's pay a two-day visit to Germany. AFP PHOTO / RONNY HARTMANN (Photo credit should read RONNY HARTMANN/AFP/Getty Images)
President Barack Obama is greeted by daughter Malia as he arrives for the 57th Presidential Inauguration ceremonial swearing-in at the US Capitol on January 21, 2013 in Washington, DC. AFP PHOTO/Jewel Samad (Photo credit should read JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images)
U.S. President Barack Obama hugs his daughter Malia as his wife Michelle and daughter Sasha watch after being sworn in as president at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, DC on January 21, 2013. (Mark Gail/MCT via Getty Images)
President Barack Obama walks out of the White House in Washington with his daughter Sasha towards Marine One helicopter, Friday, Dec. 19, 2014, as they travel to Hawaii for the Christmas holiday. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais )