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Man, 80, says he shot burglar after pregnancy plea

California Man Not Sorry for Fatally Shooting Intruder Outside Home

LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Prosecutors Friday were waiting for the results of a police investigation into the killing of a burglar by an 80-year-old California homeowner who says he shot the woman in the back as she fled his home and ran down an alley, the district attorney's office said.

Long Beach resident Tom Greer, 80, told KNBC-TV that the burglar had said she was pregnant and asked Greer not to fire, but he shot her twice in the back anyway.

An autopsy later found that Andrea Miller, 28, was not pregnant, said coroner's spokesman Ed Winter.

"Long Beach police are still investigating," said Sarah Ardalani, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office. "It's ongoing, and so we're waiting at this point."

Prosecutors filed murder, burglary, robbery and weapons charges against Gus Adams, 26, a suspected accomplice of Miller. He was being held on bail of more than $1 million.

A court appearance initially set for Friday was rescheduled for next month.

The murder charge is possible because Adams is accused of participating in a felony that led to a death, said Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell.

Police said Friday that Adams' mother, Ruby Adams, also was involved, and she was arrested Thursday night on suspicion of robbery. They gave no details on her alleged role or the evidence against her.

McDonnell said the homeowner came home around 9 p.m. Tuesday and surprised Adams and Miller, who were trying to break into a safe. They assaulted him, breaking his collarbone, before he was able to get a handgun, the chief said.

Police said he fired shots inside and outside his house.

Under California law, homeowners have a right to protect themselves with deadly force inside their homes and in the immediate vicinity - such as a patio - if they feel they are in imminent danger of great bodily injury or death, said Lawrence Rosenthal, a former federal prosecutor who teaches law at Chapman University.

But this case enters a gray area because Greer, by his own account, chased the burglars and fired at them outside his home as they were fleeing, Rosenthal said.

"The problem here is that all this happens very fast and his legal right to use force probably ended just a few seconds before he did use deadly force," Rosenthal said. "So the question is should you charge somebody on the basis of what really was a series of split-second decisions when he's just been robbed and physically assaulted?"

McDonnell declined to say how many shots were fired or to confirm that Miller was shot in the back.

No phone listing was available for Greer and he could not be reached for comment by The Associated Press.

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partsautomall July 25 2014 at 2:32 PM

you're going to see more of this.people trying to steal what other people have worked for.this will be the only way to stop it.dead people don't steal or lie

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mckdarren July 25 2014 at 2:34 PM

Hear, hear for the old man! The world won't miss this piece of trash, and thankfully she'll breed no more. With luck, her accomplice will get at least 30 years.

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gurusoldier July 25 2014 at 2:34 PM

She looks like a psycho meth head and so does her boy freind and I would be willing to bet that they both have meth in their system and were robbing that 80 year old man so they could get more drugs. Her autopsy will prove that theory.

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mashallaha July 25 2014 at 2:35 PM

What difference does it make if she was pregnant? She was robbing this guy, he had been assaulted, I would have shot her too. The problem is that he didn't do it until the perp was running away, which makes it hard to prove self defense. Still, one has a right to defend one's home, up to and including deadly force.

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daveguin July 25 2014 at 2:35 PM

80 year old folks shouldn't have to worry about this kind of stuff. If your dumb enough to break into someones house, you deserve to get shot.

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Deborah Caldwell July 25 2014 at 2:36 PM

old man taking out the trash. not worth prosecuting.

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BRUCE July 25 2014 at 2:38 PM

You break into a persons house, expect them to shoot you on sight.

Somehow people still have the impression that old people always have a lot of cash at home because they don't trust the bank.
That was several generations ago during the great depression when banks were being robbed left and right and going bankrupt otherwise.

As a senior I enjoy the ease of on line banking and using a debit card and almost never have any cash on hand....don't really need it.

But if ya come a lookin' for it......I do have a gun.

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tofjr July 25 2014 at 2:28 PM

Its too ugly to be pregnant. I call BS.

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boardsrbetter July 25 2014 at 2:30 PM

Well they shouldn't havebeen robbing him, they shouldnt have attacked him. If he would have shot and killed while they were attacking, this would be open and shut.

The fact that he chased her and shot really clouds up the case. Maybe give the boyfriend murder, and give the old man manslaughter. He was in his rights until they got outside. I cant say it was okay to shoot a woman who was running away in the back.

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FUN July 26 2014 at 1:26 PM

I have been robbed 2 times , caught the thieves , turned them over to the cops both times and the DUMB ASS DA never prosecuted either one of the POS .One had been arrested 14 times and they let him WALK . THESE THUGS have more rights than the citizens . SHOOT THEM ON SIGHT !!!! RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES ... HOT LEAD IMPLANTS FOR ALL THIEVES !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Randy FUN July 26 2014 at 1:35 PM


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