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Rebels hamper access to plane crash site

By Peter Leonard and Evgeniy Maloletka

HRABOVE, Ukraine (AP) -- Armed separatists hampered access to the Malaysia Airlines crash site Saturday, limiting the movements of international monitors and raising concerns that evidence showing who brought the plane down and killed the 298 people onboard would be lost, tampered with or destroyed.

At the crash site itself in rebel-held eastern Ukraine, the smell of decay was unmistakable. Dozens of victims' bodies lay decomposing in the summer heat, either flung upon the ground in contorted positions after Flight 17 was shot out of the sky or piled Saturday into body bags that emergency workers left by the side of the road.

"Some of the body bags are open and the damage to the corpses is very, very bad. It is very difficult to look at," OSCE spokesman Michael Bociurkiw told reporters in a phone call from the site.

Flight 17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was carrying 283 passengers and 15 crew Thursday when it was shot down in eastern Ukraine close to the Russian border, an area that has seen months of clashes between government troops and pro-Russia separatists. The victims came from 13 nations, including 192 Dutch citizens and 80 children.

At an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council, the U.S. pointed blame at the separatists, saying Washington believes the jetliner likely was downed by an SA-11 missile and "we cannot rule out technical assistance from Russian personnel."

Ukraine on Saturday accused Russia of helping separatist rebels destroy evidence at the crash site - a report the rebels denied.

Bociurkiw said the 24-member monitoring delegation was given some access Saturday to the crash site but their movements were being limited by the rebels. The site sprawls across sunflower and wheat fields between two villages in eastern Ukraine, encompassing eight square miles (20 square kilometers).

"We have to be very careful with our movements because of all the security," Bociurkiw said. "We are unarmed civilians, so we are not in a position to argue with people with heavy arms."

The government in Kiev said militiamen have removed 38 bodies from the crash site and have taken them to the rebel-held city of Donetsk. It said the bodies were transported with the assistance of specialists with distinct Russian accents.

The rebels are also "seeking large transports to carry away plane fragments to Russia," the Ukrainian government said in a statement.

In Donetsk, separatist leader Alexander Borodai denied that any bodies had been transferred or that the rebels had in any way interfered with the work of observers. He said he encouraged the international community to help with the cleanup before the bodies decay further.

As emergency workers loaded about 80 bodies of plane victims into bags Saturday, Bociurkiw stressed that his team was not at the site to conduct a full-scale investigation.

"We are looking at security on the perimeter of the crash site, looking at the status in the condition of the bodies, the status in the condition of the debris, and also personal belongings," he said.

One passenger's body was seen still strapped into an airline seat, with bare toes peeking out under long jeans. Another body was flung face-up into a field of blue flowers.

Ukraine also urged Moscow to insist that the pro-Russia rebels grant international experts the ability to conduct a thorough, impartial investigation into the downing of the plane - echoing a demand that President Barack Obama issued a day earlier from Washington.

"The integrity of the site has been compromised, and there are indications that vital evidence has not been preserved in place," Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said at a news conference in Kuala Lumpur.

He called for immediate access for Malaysia's team at the site to retrieve human remains.

Ukraine said it passed along all information on developments relating to Thursday's downing to its European and U.S. partners.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed in a phone call Saturday that an independent, international commission led by the International Civil Aviation Organization, ICAO, should be granted swift access to the crash site, said government spokesman Georg Streiter.

The commission should examine the circumstances of the crash and recover the victims, said Streiter, adding that Merkel urged Putin to use his influence over the separatists to make that happen.

In Moscow, Deputy Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov questioned Ukraine's willingness to present a full accounting of its inventory of surface-to-air and air-to-air missiles in the region.

In the Netherlands, forensic teams fanned out across the country Saturday to collect material including DNA samples that will help positively identify the remains of the 192 Dutch victims.

Police said in a tweet that 40 pairs of detectives from the National Forensic Investigations Team would be visiting victims' relatives over the coming days.

The location of the black boxes remains a mystery and the separatist leadership remained adamant Saturday that it had not located them. Bociurkiw also said he had received no information on their whereabouts.

Aviation experts say, however, not to expect too much from the flight data and cockpit voice recorders in understanding how Flight 17 was brought down.

The most useful evidence that's likely to come from the crash scene is whether missile pieces can be found in the trail of debris that came down as the plane exploded, said John Goglia, a U.S. aviation safety expert and former National Transportation Safety Board member.

The operation of the Flight 17 doesn't appear to be an issue, he said.

Obama called the downing of the plane "a global tragedy."

"An Asian airliner was destroyed in European skies filled with citizens from many countries, so there has to be a credible international investigation into what happened," he said.

Both the White House and the Kremlin have called for peace talks in the conflict between Ukrainian government forces and Russian-speaking separatists who seek closer ties to Moscow. Heavy fighting took place Friday around Luhansk, less than 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the crash site, with 20 civilians reported killed.

Malaysia Airlines, meanwhile, said Saturday it had no immediate plans to fly the relatives of the 298 passengers and crew killed to visit the crash site in Ukraine because of security concerns.

A spokesman for the airline says next of kin were being cared for in Amsterdam while a team from the carrier, including security officials, was in Ukraine assessing the situation.

In the Netherlands, travelers flying out of Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport laid flowers and signed a condolence book before boarding their flights Saturday, including those on the latest Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 to Kuala Lumpur.


David McHugh in Kiev, Ukraine; Mstyslav Chernov in Donetsk, Ukraine; Michael Corder in Amsterdam and Frank Jordans in Berlin contributed to this report.

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i12cae July 19 2014 at 12:37 PM

So officials are not allowed in to investigate but locals are allowed to roam and pillage belongings of the dead? Disgusting

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CAMERON i12cae July 19 2014 at 12:46 PM

I agree

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grgg216 i12cae July 19 2014 at 2:17 PM

Totally digusting,What kind of people are they.(sick)

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jimsr375 grgg216 July 19 2014 at 4:33 PM

very simple answer they are ukrainian

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crarob July 19 2014 at 12:15 PM

This "global tragedy" was actually murder, glorious commander in chef.

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Viper1ex19 July 19 2014 at 12:33 PM

Russians Destroying Evidence--

Let me put on my "SHOCKED" look-

..........\ O /.........

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debnaert July 19 2014 at 12:31 PM

YOU are getting a REAL good look at what this world has become in just 6 short years SINCE Obama has REMOVED America from keeping order in this world. HE will go sown in history as the man that ALMOST single handed destroyed America in just 6 years! THANK GOD FOR the brains of our fore fathers that made it impossible any one to TAKE OVER AS A DICTATOR!

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bill_jones86 July 19 2014 at 12:07 PM

did anyone expect anything less by these people? someone screwed up bad and the world needs to come down hard on the whole group. ukraines, ruskies and seperatists. since no one can omit guilt they all need to be boycotted every which way.

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buddwhyzr July 19 2014 at 1:54 PM

Friggin' Russians are a disgrace. It looks like a goddam flea market at the crash scene.

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Sue July 19 2014 at 12:34 PM

This is a disgusting displace by disgusting people who have NO REGARD for human life. NOW we know who's behind this, but we've got a wimp at the helm, so don't expect too much to happen from that end.

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timeoutcarl22 July 19 2014 at 2:12 PM

Once again Obama is in over his head

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braxton1bragg timeoutcarl22 July 19 2014 at 2:28 PM

Once again you expose yourself as the village idiot!!

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Sparky5229 braxton1bragg July 19 2014 at 2:41 PM

once again you prove you are an obama lover and he can do no worng

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Brad July 19 2014 at 2:06 PM

Should we expect less, Putin probably called Obama and asked him what to do,. He advised him to destroy all the eveidence, lot like losing hard drives in Washington. Obama is probably our worst enemy.

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Bruce Brough Brad July 19 2014 at 2:43 PM

You're a sicky, Brad. Delusional!

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FlyerHockeyPride Brad July 19 2014 at 2:53 PM

Since Obama and Lerner are good at destroying things, how about someone destroys his racist daughters and big mouthed, big lipped wife of his, Moochelle? She's a disgrace to decent black women everywhere and they aren't racist like she is either! :-/

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debnaert July 19 2014 at 12:27 PM

This is OUTRAGEOUS! DISGUSTING behavior in a world of 2014! DICTATORS, and this includes obama, ARE NOT WELCOME to reside in this world! Criminals.... all of them! IF OBAMA had any kind of COURAGE he would deal Russia a HUGE BLOW!

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