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Music duo Insane Clown Posse loses gang lawsuit

Insane Clown Posse Sues The FBI For Thinking They Are a Gang

By Ed White

DETROIT (AP) - The federal government can't be blamed for any fallout from a 2011 FBI report that put a gang tag on fans of the music group Insane Clown Posse, a judge said.

U.S. District Judge Robert Cleland dismissed a lawsuit by the rap-metal duo and fans, known as Juggalos, who said they've been targeted by police because they have jewelry or tattoos with the group's symbol, a man running with a hatchet.

Cleland said the U.S. Justice Department is not responsible for how authorities use a national report on gangs.

The report "does not recommend any particular course of action for local law enforcement to follow, and instead operates as a descriptive, rather than prescriptive, assessment of nationwide gang trends," Cleland said in a 14-page opinion last week.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan filed a lawsuit on behalf of Juggalos and the group, claiming their constitutional rights to free speech and due process were violated by the report.

The FBI report labeled the Juggalos as a "loosely organized hybrid gang." It said those who identify as Juggalos have committed assaults and vandalism, and a "small number" of them have engaged in more serious crimes. There is no mention of them in the latest report.

The ACLU said it will appeal Cleland's decision.

"This is not the end. We'll keep fighting to clear the Juggalo family name," Insane Clown Posse member Joseph Bruce, known as Violent J, said in a statement released by the ACLU.

"While it is easy to fear what one does not understand, discrimination and bigotry against any group of people is just plain wrong and un-American," he said.

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ram4131 July 09 2014 at 1:01 AM

PUH LEEZE--the friggin ACLU released a statement defending the virtue of some clown named "Violent J"? Good luck on your appeal, Bozos.

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lakers84 ram4131 July 09 2014 at 10:02 AM

LMFAO!! :p

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BlackDeep ram4131 July 09 2014 at 12:06 PM

How about the NRA? Now there is a violent orginization. Bet there has been more violence and crime committed with guns than with some moron walking around with makeup on.

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buddwhyzr BlackDeep July 09 2014 at 1:00 PM

Can you possibly be ANY more off topic?

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mark and sheri July 08 2014 at 10:40 PM

Sorry guys. But a whole lot of your self-reported followers in my area have a reputation for picking fights, banking people, being violent. Maybe if you tried to get them to tone down their activity, you would not be label as a "Gang".

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Jessie mark and sheri July 09 2014 at 6:45 PM

So do black people in my area. Should we make it allowed that the police can search the home of any black person because they "might" be bad? :/ I don't consider myself a juggalo, but back in high school, I enjoyed their music. It would be frightening to know that my innocent bumper sticker on my car could classify me as a gang member! That is just outrageous. They are no more a gang member than a "blieber" is! Just another example of prejudice in the police force and innocent folks getting stripped of their rights.

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Mark July 08 2014 at 11:27 PM

I USED TO LIVE IN RIVER ROUGE, AND HAD TO WALK THROUGH DELRAY A LOT... THAT BEING SAID, I THINK YOU TWO ARE NOTHING BUT A COUPLE OF THUGS WHO GOT RICH AND FAMOUS ON OTHER PEOPLES SORROW FOR MEETING YOU !!!
YES, YOUR FOOLERERS ARE THUGS AND GANGSTERS, AND DESERVE THE TAG "GANG MEMBERS" BECAUSE THEY ACT LIKE THE PERSONS YOU SING ABOUT AND TRY TO IMTITATE WHAT YOU DO !! JUGALOS, AND THUGALOS ARE THEIR TERMS AND THEY ACT THE PART IN THE CRIMES THEY COMMIT IN HONOR OF YOU STUPID IDIOTS WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO MAKE OUR NATION A WORSE PLACE AND NOT A BETTER PLACE !!! HOW ABOUT YOU SING A POSITIVE MESSAGE INSTEAD OF MESSAGES OF HATE AND VIOLENCE !! SO WHAT IF YOU GREW UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND LEARNED TO BE A THUG TO GET ALONG, YOU ONLY CREATE MORE OF YOURSELVES AND NOT ANYONE WHO IS WILLING TO HELP ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITHOUT ROBBING OR BEATING THEM UP YOU MORONS !!!
WHEN I WALKED TO WORK THROUGH DELRAY, I ALWAYS CARRIED A GUN, I HAD TO THANKS TO YOU MORONS !!

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Brian Workman July 09 2014 at 1:10 AM

It's too bad that they weren't all African Americans, and the Judge would have no choice other than grant the Insane Clown Posse they're wishes!!

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chuzzlawit Brian Workman July 09 2014 at 11:01 AM

Their not They're

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smashingmonkey Brian Workman July 09 2014 at 12:30 PM

True. All the predominantly black gangs have successfully sued the government on this issue. Oh, wait . . . no they haven't.

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coopdabomb July 09 2014 at 6:46 AM

By the tag line on the main page I thought it was obama and his administration.

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MIKE coopdabomb July 09 2014 at 10:21 AM

STUPID

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Erik Baran coopdabomb July 09 2014 at 12:25 PM

Good to see you woke up from the coma you were in between 2001 - 2009.

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crowland503 July 09 2014 at 3:55 AM

I know a Clown with the Funny Ears in the White House who would fit very well with this group. Just know he's piss poor at everything!!!

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buddwhyzr July 09 2014 at 1:12 AM

Stepped on your dick again, eh ACLU? Way to step up to an important cause.

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bnxbmbers2014 July 09 2014 at 5:34 AM

I JUST LOVE HOW THESE GUY'S CLAIM NOT TO PROMOTE VIOLENCE, BUT YET ONE OF THE MEMBERS CALLS HIMSELF "VILOENT J"

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CHUCK bnxbmbers2014 July 09 2014 at 1:33 PM

oops, tpyo.

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dyane10 July 09 2014 at 11:15 AM

When did stating documented facts become 'discrimination and bigotry'? That's not 'un-American' Mr. Joseph 'Violent J' Bruce, that is called suffering the consequences of ones actions and poor choices.

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DADDYO July 09 2014 at 11:22 AM

I thought these guys died a couple of years ago.

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