Mom accused of killing kids said they were 'mean'

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Mom accused of killing kids said they were 'mean'
Julie Schenecker looks at her family members as she is escorted out of the courtroom after being found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at the George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
Photographs of Powers, left, and Calyx Schenecker are displayed on a video screen at their memorial service at the Christ Chapel Bible Church in Fort Worth, Fort Worth, Texas on Tuesday Feb. 8, 2011. Sixteen-year-old Calyx and 13-year-old Beau Schenecker were found dead Jan. 28. Julie Powers Schenecker is charged with first-degree murder but her arraignment has not yet been scheduled. Tampa police say she told detectives she shot her children for being "mouthy." (AP Photo/ Ron T. Ennis, Pool)
Parker Schenecker listens as his ex-wife, Julie Schenecker, was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at the George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
David Powers listens as his sister, Julie Schenecker, was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at the George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
Pat Powers, center, cries among family members as her daughter, Julie Schenecker was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at he George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
David Powers cries among family members as his sister, Julie Schenecker, was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at the George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
Julie Schenecker waits while paperwork is corrected after the jury had left following receiving instructions from Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is the New Tampa woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Julie Schenecker watches the jury leave after receiving instructions from Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is the New Tampa woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Judge Emmett Lamar Battles gives the jury instructions during the murder trial of Julie Schenecker on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is the New Tampa woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. For Schenecker the trial will decide whether she spends the rest of her life in prison, or is placed in a state psychiatric facility and periodically evaluated for release. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Julie Schenecker is led into Judge Emmett Lamar Battles' courtroom on Thursday, May 15, 2014 for closing arguments in her murder trial. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will decide whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Julie Schenecker is escorted from Judge Emmett Lamar Battles' courtroom on Thursday, May 15, 2014 for closing arguments in her murder trial. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will decide whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Defense attorney Jennifer Spradley gives her closing arguments during Julie Schenecker's trial before Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will dedice whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace,Pool)
Julie Schenecker, right, listens to her defense attorney give closing arguments before Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will dedice whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace,Pool)
Florida Assistant State Attorney Jay Pruner gives the final rebuttal during closing arguments in the trial of Julie Schenecker before Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will dedice whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace,Pool)
Julie Schenecker wipes her face with a tissue as she listens to her defense attorney give closing arguments before Judge Emmett Lamar Battles on Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will dedice whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace,Pool)
Julie Schenecker is led into Judge Emmett Lamar Battles' courtroom on Thursday, May 15, 2014 for closing arguments in her murder trial. Schenecker, 53, is accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. The jury began deliberations Thursday afternoon. They will dedice whether a former Army officer's wife knew what she was doing when she killed her two teenagers or whether she was insane at the time and couldn't tell right from wrong. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Daniel Wallace , Pool)
Defendant Julie Schenecker enters a Tampa courtroom on Friday, May 2, 2014 on the fifth day of jury selection in her trial. She is accused of killing her two teenaged children in 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
FILE -- A Jan. 30, 2011 file booking photo provided by the Hillsborough County Jail shows Julie Schenecker. Schenecker was arrested Jan. 28, 2011 and charged with two counts of first degree premeditated murder after she allegedly shot and killed her two teenage children. Schenecker allegedly told investigators she shot her children because they talked back and were "mouthy." (AP Photo/Hillsborough County Jail)
Assistant State Attorney Jay Pruner shows a family photograph to the jury during Julie Schenecker's trial on Tuesday, May 6, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker is accused of killing her two children Calyx, 16, and Beau Schenecker, 13 in 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Julie Schenecker, center, is led into a Tampa, Fla. courtroom for the first day of jury selection for her trial, Monday, April 28, 2014. Shenecker is being tried for the January 28, 2011 murder of her two children Calyx and Beau Schenecker, her 16-year-old daughter and 13-year-old son. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Defendant Julie Schenecker listens to a prospective juror answer questions from attorneys during jury selection in her double murder trial on Wednesday, April 30, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker is on trial for two counts of first-degree murder. Police say she shot and killed her two teenagers in January 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Julie Schenecker talks with attorney Jennifer Spradley on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, prior to the start of day 2 of her trial in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker is accused of killing her two children Calyx, 16, and Beau Schenecker, 13 in 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Defendant Julie Schenecker looks towards her attorney Charles Traina on Friday, May 2, 2014 as he address prospective jurors on the fifth day of jury selection in her trial. She is accused of killing her two teenaged children in 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Parker Schenecker looks over a family calendar as he listens to a question from Assistant State Attorney Jay Pruner during the trial of his now ex-wife Julie Schenecker. Julie Schenecker is on trial for the murders of their two children, Calyx and Beau in 2011. (AP Photo/The Tampa Tribune, Jay Conner, Pool)
Dr. Ted Kitchens speaks at the memorial service for Calyx and Beau Schenecker at the Christ Chapel Bible Church in Fort Worth, Texas on Tuesday Feb. 8, 2011. Friends say Army Col. Parker Schenecker wants his children to be remembered Tuesday afternoon for their lives instead of how they died, allegedly shot by their mother. Sixteen-year-old Calyx and 13-year-old Beau Schenecker were found dead Jan. 28. Julie Powers Schenecker is charged with first-degree murder but her arraignment has not yet been scheduled. Tampa police say she told detectives she shot her children for being "mouthy." (AP Photo/ Ron T. Ennis, Pool)
Parker Schenecker listens as his ex-wife, Julie Schenecker, was found guilty of two counts of first-degree murder at the George E. Edgecomb Courthouse, Thursday, May 15, 2014 in Tampa, Fla. Schenecker, 53, is the woman accused of killing her two teenage children Calyx, 16, and Beau, 13, in 2011. (AP Photo/Tampa Bay Times, Lara Cerri, Pool)
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By Tamara Lush

A Tampa mother who is accused of killing her two teenagers told a detective that her children had been "really mean" and she hoped they were dead.

"I loved them when they were birth through six," Julie Schenecker told Tampa Police Det. Gary Sandel in January 2011.

But they became "sassy" as teens, she said, especially her daughter.

"I just topped over. The last straw," Schenecker said in the interview, a recording of which was played in court Wednesday. "My daughter, the 16-year-old, is mouthy. She calls me names."

Prosecutors said Schenecker killed the daughter, Calyx, and her 13-year-old son, Beau. She has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to two counts of first-degree murder. If convicted, she will face a life prison sentence without parole; prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty.

Schenecker, who is now 53, also told Sandel how she met her husband, Parker Schenecker, while both served in the military and said she worked as a military debriefer in the Army before having children.

During the interview, her voice was slow and slurred. She said she had been in therapy and took multiple prescriptions, including Lithium for bipolar disorder.

She told the detective that she had long thought about suicide.

"I feel horrible. I just feel horrible," she said. "But I've been thinking about doing this for a long time."

Julie Schenecker Accused Of Killing Kids Said They Were 'Mean'


Schenecker's attorneys say she has suffered from bipolar disorder and depression for decades.

During the interview, Schenecker did appear confused at times.

"Are my kids coming in later?" she asked the detective.

Later, the detective asked her where her kids were. She said that Calyx was in her bed where she had placed her after the shooting, and that Beau was in the family's minivan where she had shot him.

"I hope they're dead," Schenecker said to the detective. "What do you think?"

"They're dead," Sandel replied.

Schenecker detailed how she had intended to kill herself after she killed her teens, but wasn't able to articulate why she didn't.

"Beau went first, Calyx went second. I'd sure as hell like to go third," she said.

Tampa Police officer Fred Arnold testified that Schenecker's mood was "jovial" the day of her arrest.

"She wasn't sad or anything like that," Arnold said. "She wanted me to give her my gun so she could finish the job."

Prosecutors say the slayings were premeditated and point to Schenecker's journal and the fact she purchased a gun days before the shootings as evidence.

Defense attorneys questioned the detective about whether he should have proceeded with the interview of Schenecker because she seemed shaky, impaired and couldn't easily stand on her own.

Parker Schenecker sat in the court for the testimony. The couple was married and he was deployed in the Middle East at the time of the slayings. They divorced months after Schenecker was arrested.
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