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KISS not the first to tell rock hall to kiss off



BY CHRIS TALBOTT

AP MUSIC WRITER

Graciousness is not always high on the list of attributes you find in successful rock `n' roll stars.

Because of this, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions have sometimes brought out the worst in its inductees, whether continuing once-private feuds in public or launching criticism at the hall itself. This year it's Kiss that's angry, its members upset over the organization's decision only to induct original members Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Peter Criss and Ace Frehley while excluding members who joined later.

As a result, the makeup-wearing rockers won't be wearing makeup or rocking at Thursday's ceremony at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn when they're inducted with Nirvana, Peter Gabriel, Linda Ronstadt, Hall and Oates, Yes, Cat Stevens, late Beatles manager Brian Epstein and former Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham, who also is boycotting this year's show over dissatisfaction with his role.

Here's a quick look at seven other acts who chose to make the ceremony uncomfortable for everyone else or just skipped it altogether:

- The guys in Guns N' Roses are at a point now where they can sometimes play nice together, but that was not the case when the Los Angeles rockers were inducted in 2012. Frontman Axl Rose decided to skip the ceremony because it didn't "appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected." Guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagen and drummer Steve Adler, however, did take the stage, performing together for the first time in nearly two decades. Myles Kennedy served as the stand-in for Rose.

- There was nary a Van Halen during the towering rock band's induction. Guitarist Eddie Van Halen chose to enter rehab the week before the 2007 ceremony - a pretty rock-solid excuse. But his drummer brother Alex also chose not to attend. And original lead singer David Lee Roth pulled a very Roth-like maneuver and pulled out at the last minute in a huff over what song he'd perform at the event. That left bassist Michael Anthony and second singer Sammy Hagar as the only official attendees. They were reduced to performing with Paul Shaffer's house band.

- John Fogerty also faced the prospects of a put-together band when he refused to play with surviving Creedence Clearwater Revival members, bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford. He rallied with a couple of all-stars - Bruce Springsteen and The Band's Robbie Robertson - to back him onstage, but the rift became oh-so-public when Cook and Clifford left the room while Fogerty played. The band split in 1972 and Fogerty was still holding grudges at the 1993 induction, telling Cook and Clifford he wouldn't play with them ever again when they showed up for rehearsal earlier in the day. Cook and Clifford returned when the lights came back up, with a forlorn Cook holding the bass he'd hoped to play.

- The Sex Pistols were among the first and most notorious punk rock bands and fittingly extended a metaphorical middle finger to the hall when finally inducted in 2007 - six years after it was first eligible. The British band, which featured lead singer Johnny Rotten and late bassist Sid Vicious, said in a hand-written and ungrammatical note posted on its website that the hall was like "urine in wine" selling "old famous": "Were not coming. Were not your monkeys and so what?" Rolling Stone magazine founder Jann Wenner read the letter in its entirety, and invited the band to pick up their trophies anyway: "If they want to smash them into bits, they can do that, too."

- The middle finger was not metaphorical at all when Elvis Costello briefly appeared on stage as his backing band The Attractions during the same 2007 ceremony the Sex Pistols didn't attend. The British singer had been touring with two members of the band, but was in a long-running feud with bassist Bruce Thomas that spilled over onstage. Thomas took his trophy from a presenter, said, "Thanks for the memories, that's it," and then walked off the stage and out the door. Costello marked his exit with his middle finger.

- Members of Blondie added even more bad blood to the 2007 ceremony as a division between founding members Debbie Harry and Chris Stein, and Frank Infante and Nigel Harrison spilled onto the stage. Harry and Stein had begun performing together in 1999 without the band's other three members and Infante and Harrison sued unsuccessfully to rejoin the band. Infante continued to lobby Harry onstage at the ceremony: "Debbie, are we allowed?" She declined and the band went on to play its three biggest hits with stand-ins. "They wrote themselves out of the band history, as far as I'm concerned," Stein said backstage. "They should have a little bit of honor. This is supposed to be rock `n' roll. This is supposed to be friendly. This is like going through the trenches together."

- Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr recently reunited to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Beatles' first trip to the U.S. But things weren't always so copacetic, as McCartney showed when he failed to show up to the group's induction in 1988. He explained the decision through a publicist: "After 20 years, the Beatles still have some business differences. I would feel like a complete hypocrite waving and smiling with them at a fake reunion."

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Judy Ausuebel and David Bauder in New York and Tom Withers in Cleveland, Ohio, contributed to this report. Follow Talbott at https://twitter.com/Chris_Talbott

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RANDY April 09 2014 at 9:00 PM

WOW! Take it easy on KISS. There stuff was ok but let me tell you those guys knew how to put on a show. Whatever the case there laughing all the way to the bank. Ad there is why all the haters.

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dianezline2u April 09 2014 at 11:45 PM

ReTitle is in order... (Rock and Roll Hall of Shame). The Shame list is toooooo long to print.
Therefor listing the top shameful mistake. Only ONE man has given his heart, his soul, including his guts, to Rock and Roll. JOE COCKER. Without Joe Cocker... can only be known as.......
Rock and Roll Hall of SHAME.

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john April 09 2014 at 11:55 PM

I think the Hall is a joke, there is no reasoning to who gets in and who doesn't. Rush finally makes it in last year, NWA gets in this year but not the Moody Blues who have been performing for 40 years?

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kvokvo john April 10 2014 at 12:42 AM

Are you kidding me! Go see the hall for yourself and tell me it's a joke! It's not a joke!

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Mousie john April 10 2014 at 1:39 AM

Isn't that the truth! The Moody Blues, the band I have loved since I was 17, I'm now 65. Their music is so beautiful! I saw them this last October, (they are still touring) and they have the most beautiful voices, can play their guitars, drums, etc. beyond almost imagining, I believe even better than when they were younger. They still create new music, and sold close to 70 million records, but their not good enough for the RRHOF.
It is their loss. The Moody Blues, their music, and the joy they have brought others will go on long after the RRHOF no longer exists!

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hermine April 09 2014 at 6:10 PM

Why did we ever let them into Ohio. Their lousy music will create hearing loss due to the their music turned up to 140 decibels. The same loudness that airplanes make when taking off. A disgrace to the real music world.

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jdixon1474 April 09 2014 at 6:05 PM

It's only rock & rolll...

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gr8fularmstrong April 09 2014 at 6:04 PM

Screw these ego pig's. There are garage bands that are worthy of this Ohio truck stop.

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Nick April 10 2014 at 12:09 AM

IT"S A BLOODY SHAME THAT (TEN YEARS AFTER )HAVE NOT BEEN PUT INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL H.O.F ,ALVIN LEE WAS A GREAT GUITAREST HE WAS PLAYING NOT ONLY GREAT BLUES BUT HE WAS PUTTING GREAT JAZZ LICKS IN AS WELL HAVE A LISTEN TO WOODY HERMAMS, WOODCHOPPERS BALL, GOD BLESS YOU MR ALVIN LEE A T.Y.N FAN SINCE I SAW THEM AT THE GOLDEN BEAR IN HUNTINGTON BEACH CAL. IN 1968I THINK THAT WAS THE YEAR IM 65 NOW BUT IM SURE THAT WAS THE YEAR ANY WAY I DO HOPE IT WONT BE A LONG R.I.P.SPEED FINGERS

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Charles Jones Nick April 10 2014 at 1:48 AM

most white guitarist stole their licks from Chuck Berry and other Black guitarists, AskKeith Richards and Eric Clapton.

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baymoose Charles Jones April 10 2014 at 2:15 AM

You are accurate...I was buying Hettie Ledbetter in the Villaga in 1955...and he had retrieved those licks from relatives in the 1910's and 1920's. They need to look back a few years...BTW, I played R&R in small combos in the 50's and 60's, and I am white.

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David S. April 09 2014 at 8:41 PM

The ones being inducted Thursday were also dissed for years too......namely Cat Stevens and Linda Ronstadt. They waited until Ronstadt got a degenerative disease (Parkinsons) beofre they admitted her. As to Cat Stevens, well....we know his story.

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Charles Jones April 10 2014 at 1:38 AM

Alltherockers, Brits and American stole the music and style ffrom Black musicians

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XXHELLBILLYXX-13 Charles Jones April 10 2014 at 2:40 AM

Naw... They Just are better musicians

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XXHELLBILLYXX-13 Charles Jones April 10 2014 at 2:43 AM

Better Guitar Better Vocals ...Tighter bands. Growth, Inspiration, A love for blues. ROCK N ROLL WAS BORN.

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Diane April 09 2014 at 5:38 PM

"preforming" You are supposed to be a journalist. How about a little proofreading!!!

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