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China ship hears `signal'; unclear if jet-related

Ship Hears 'Signal'; Unclear If Jet-Related


By NICK PERRY and EILEEN NG

PERTH, Australia (AP) - A Chinese ship involved in the hunt for the missing Malaysian jetliner reported hearing a "pulse signal" Saturday in southern Indian Ocean waters with the same frequency emitted by the plane's data recorders, as Malaysia vowed not to give up the search for the jet.

The Australian government agency coordinating the search for the missing plane said early Sunday that the electronic pulse signals reportedly detected by the Chinese ship are consistent with those of an aircraft black box. But retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, the head of the search coordination agency, said they "cannot verify any connection" at this stage between the electronic signals and the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

Military and civilian planes, ships with deep-sea searching equipment and a British nuclear submarine scoured a remote patch of the southern Indian Ocean off Australia's west coast, in an increasingly urgent hunt for debris and the "black box" recorders that hold vital information about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's last hours.

After weeks of fruitless looking, officials face the daunting prospect that sound-emitting beacons in the flight and voice recorders will soon fall silent as their batteries die after sounding electronic "pings" for a month.

A Chinese ship that is part of the search effort detected a "pulse signal" in southern Indian Ocean waters, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported. Xinhua, however, said it had not yet been determined whether the signal was related to the missing plane, citing the China Maritime Search and Rescue Center.

Xinhua said a black box detector deployed by the ship, Haixun 01, picked up a signal at 37.5 kilohertz (cycles per second), the same frequency emitted by flight data recorders.

Malaysia's civil aviation chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, confirmed that the frequency emitted by Flight 370's black boxes were 37.5 kilohertz and said authorities were verifying the report.

Earlier Saturday, Xinhua reported that a Chinese military aircraft searching for the missing aircraft spotted "white floating objects" not far from where the electronic signals were detected.

Houston said the Australian-led Joint Agency Coordination Centre heading the search operation could not yet verify the Chinese reports and had asked China for "any further information that may be relevant." He said the Australian air force was considering deploying more aircraft to the area where the Chinese ship reportedly detected the sounds.

"I have been advised that a series of sounds have been detected by a Chinese ship in the search area. The characteristics reported are consistent with the aircraft black box," Houston said, adding that the Australian-led agency had also received reports of the white objects sighted on the ocean surface about 90 kilometers (56 miles) from where the electronic signals were detected.

"However, there is no confirmation at this stage that the signals and the objects are related to the missing aircraft," Houston said.

Still, Malaysia's defense minister and acting transport minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, was hopeful. "Another night of hope - praying hard," he tweeted in response to the latest discoveries.

There are many clicks, buzzes and other sounds in the ocean from animals, but the 37.5 kilohertz pulse was selected for underwater locator beacons on black boxes because there is nothing else in the sea that would naturally make that sound, said William Waldock, an expert on search and rescue who teaches accident investigation at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Arizona.

"They picked that (frequency) so there wouldn't be false alarms from other things in the ocean," he said.

Honeywell Aerospace, which made the boxes in the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, said the Underwater Acoustic Beacons on both the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder operate at a frequency of 37.5 kilohertz plus or minus 1 kilohertz.

Waldock cautioned that "it's possible it could be an aberrant signal" from a nuclear submarine if there was one in the vicinity.

If the sounds can be verified, it would reduce the search area to about 10 square kilometers (4 square miles), Waldock said. Unmanned robot subs with sidescan sonar would then be sent into the water to try to locate the wreckage, he said.

John Goglia, a former U.S. National Transportation Safety Board member, called the report "exciting," but cautioned that "there is an awful lot of noise in the ocean."

"One ship, one ping doesn't make a success story," he said. "It will have to be explored. I guarantee you there are other resources being moved into the area to see if it can be verified."

The Boeing 777 disappeared March 8 while en route from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing with 239 people aboard. So far, no trace of the jet has been found.

Hishammuddin, the Malaysian defense minister, told reporters in Kuala Lumpur that the cost of mounting the search was immaterial compared to providing solace for the families of those on board by establishing what happened.

"I can only speak for Malaysia, and Malaysia will not stop looking for MH370," Hishammuddin said.

He said an independent investigator would be appointed to lead a team that will try to determine what happened to Flight 370. The team will include three groups: One will look at airworthiness, including maintenance, structures and systems; another will examine operations, such as flight recorders and meteorology; and a third will consider medical and human factors.

The investigation team will include officials and experts from several nations, including Australia - which as the nearest country to the search zone is currently heading the hunt - China, the United States, Britain and France, Hishammuddin said.

A multinational search team is desperately trying to find debris floating in the water or faint sound signals from the data recorders that could lead them to the missing plane and unravel the mystery of its fate.

Finding floating wreckage is key to narrowing the search area, as officials can then use data on currents to backtrack to where the plane hit the water, and where the flight recorders may be.

Beacons in the black boxes emit "pings" so they can be more easily found, but the batteries last for only about a month.

Officials have said the hunt for the wreckage is among the hardest ever undertaken, and will get much harder still if the beacons fall silent before they are found.

"Where we're at right now, four weeks since this plane disappeared, we're much, much closer," said aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas, editor-in-chief of AirlineRatings.com. "But frustratingly, we're still miles away from finding it. We need to find some piece of debris on the water; we need to pick up the ping."

If it doesn't happen, the only hope for finding the plane may be a full survey of the Indian Ocean floor, an operation that would take years and an enormous international operation.

Hishammuddin said there were no new satellite images or data that can provide new leads for searchers. The focus now is fully on the ocean search, he said.

Two ships - the Australian navy's Ocean Shield and the British HMS Echo - carrying sophisticated equipment that can hear the recorders' pings returned Saturday to an area investigators hope is close to where the plane went down. They concede the area they have identified is a best guess.

Up to 13 military and civilian planes and nine other ships took part in the search Saturday, the Australian agency coordinating the search said.

Because the U.S. Navy's pinger locator can pick up signals to a depth of 6,100 meters (20,000 feet), it should be able to hear the plane's data recorders even if they are in the deepest part of the search zone - about 5,800 meters (19,000 feet). But that's only if the locator gets within range of the black boxes - a tough task, given the size of the search area and the fact that the pinger locator must be dragged slowly through the water at just 1 to 5 knots (1 to 6 mph).

Australia's Houston acknowledged the search area was essentially a best guess, and noted the time when the plane's locator beacons would shut down was "getting pretty close."

The overall search area is a 217,000-square-kilometer (84,000-square-mile) zone in the southern Indian Ocean, about 1,700 kilometers (1,100 miles) northwest of the western Australian city of Perth.

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Ng reported from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Associated Press writers Gillian Wong in Kuala Lumpur, Rod McGuirk in Canberra, Australia, Kristen Gelineau and Rohan Sullivan in Sydney, and Joan Lowy in Washington contributed to this report.

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hoppinhogz April 05 2014 at 8:33 PM

Does anyone know if lithium ion batteries give off dangerous fumes if ignited? Does anyone know that if there were a fire, would it or could it knock out all the neccessary electronics to communicate? If there were a fire and it was dangerous to fly over land, not being able to communicate would they possibly fly out over the ocean, hoping to land in an area where there were no populas? Would it be better to fly at a lower alltitude if there had been a fire and they got it out but were afraid it may start again and possibly cause an explosion? There is so much that needs to be learned from this. Hope the latest pinger thing is accurate. I pray the families are bearing up and have been able to find strength.

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hway395 hoppinhogz April 05 2014 at 9:24 PM

Lithium batteries are considered hazardous material w/special packaging instructions. They *would* burn very hot & emit toxic fumes. If this were the case, everyone *could* have been overcome.. The closest & most terrain friendly airport was Langkawi. Were the pilots atttempting to make Langkawi when the plane turned? We may never know. Do we really know the altitudes we've read about are accurate? Maybe no pilot alive, no autopilot? We may never have that answer either.

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tommot42 April 05 2014 at 11:01 AM

Why do we need to know the name of the person reporting the news? They always show their names and the reporters say his or her name after thereport. Why do we need to see them when we would like to see clips of the topic they are talking about?

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Gretchen April 05 2014 at 11:06 AM

I hope for the sake of the families of the crew and passengers, they actually have a credible lead. It seems like the Chinese have been determined to be the "first" to find the wreckage and that has lead to a number of false leads.

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damhoovis April 05 2014 at 12:44 PM

this could be it -its down there somewhere

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Tinkerbellediva April 05 2014 at 12:44 PM

i sure hope that they have found this ping that leads them to black box and the plane. So the families can have some peace and closure on this horrible crash. I can only imagine their grief and now that it is being a recovery mission, i hope they can give the relatives something back to them and i dont really know that they will be able to bury them but they will have a resting place of where the plane went down. I hope they can get closure for the horrible grief they are going to endure now that the grieving process has really begun now . The families has been thru more than anyone should ever have to . My blessings to the families of the people from flight 370.

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rjen164497 April 05 2014 at 12:39 PM

Why the Chinese? Why is everyone being led down a primrose path? When something smells this bad it is usualy rotten.

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yuccapucka April 05 2014 at 12:32 PM

At last!
The ping heard round the world from New York to Pei-ping.
Did Nostradamus predict this event, and what follows?

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donut999 April 05 2014 at 12:29 PM

This remains a situation where we will never really know what happened. Will boil down to best "speculation". Hard to see how even confirmed debris would pinpoint anything. Last time I checked, mucho currents in ocean. Where and if it is found today, would just be another round of speculation about where it was 30 days ago.

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R2B2 April 05 2014 at 10:48 PM

As they say in mathematics, its a necessary but not sufficient condition. The signal, if actually received, could be many things, only one of which is the flight recorder. Based on the previous sightings and reports of parts of the aircraft that didn't pan out, it doesn't look favorable for this to be real.

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floatgod April 05 2014 at 12:54 PM

Leading the front in technological advances...
CHINA?

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