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3 dead after shooting at Indiana grocery store

Shooting At Indiana Grocery Store Kills 3, Including Gunman

ELKHART, Ind. (AP) - A gunman walked into a northern Indiana grocery store and fatally shot two people Wednesday night before he was killed by police, authorities said.

Elkhart police received a call about an active shooter at Martin's Super Market about 10 p.m. Wednesday, Indiana State Police Sgt. Trent Smith said at a news conference early Thursday.

The gunman used a semi-automatic handgun to shoot and kill a woman, then walked to another aisle and shot and killed another woman, Smith said. One victim was an employee and appeared to be in her late teens or early 20s, and the other was a shopper who appeared to be in her 40s, he said. They were found about 12 aisles apart.

Two police officers, who were on a routine call nearby, were able to quickly respond to the scene, Smith said.

The shooter was pointing his gun at a third person when the officers found him in an aisle at the store, Smith said. Elkhart police then shot and killed the gunman, who Smith said lived in the area and was in his early 20s. A large knife was also found near the man's body.

The identities of the women and gunman were not released but Smith said there was no indication that the shooter knew the victims.

"At this time, it appears that it's just random," he said.

Smith also said that there is "no doubt" the officers' quick response saved lives.

The Indiana State Police will investigate because the Elkhart Police Department was involved in the shooting, Smith said.

"We do have a lot of things to look at as far as video surveillance," Smith said, noting that state and city police also are interviewing witnesses.

Martin's Super Market posted a statement on its Facebook page, saying "Thank you to our community for your thoughts and prayers tonight. We will comment further when we can do so responsibly and appropriately."

Elkhart is in far northern Indiana, just south of the Indiana-Michigan border, and about 15 miles east of South Bend.

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robcabob1 January 16 2014 at 10:54 AM

They NEVER mention if the gun was illegally owned or legally owned, ever notice that one?? A gun ban will NEVER take illegal guns off the street. A legal Conceal license would have helped to reduce deaths?

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scott.mc2 January 16 2014 at 8:57 AM

The problem remains with the people, less than 1 tenth of a percent of the people. Lately, it probably closer to 2 tenths of a percent. However, it's the breakdown of society and familial values. People were brought up to respect those in their family, the people in the community, and people in places of authority. Presently, people insist they don't need a family (much less the values that surround them - really, no one knows what values are to teach them any way), they don't know their community, and they don't respect any authority, nor should they.

We are in a sad spiral, that people have to want to get out of and make an effort to get out of. People blame guns. That's their coping mechanism, because they don't want to admit the awful truth of what people are becoming.

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hartbrkr8285 January 16 2014 at 9:01 AM

Sorry that these two ladies or anyone has to lose their life because some idiot goes off the deep end. I am not a gun owner. But I can tell you that ( Guns do not kill people ) for everyone that says take away the guns there will be less crime. No there will be more crime. Why, because the people that are going to use guns to commit a crime will still have guns. If they can't buy them they will make them. So get off your soap boxes and realize that Guns are only the instrument of destruction , the gun itself can not kill anyone until someone picks it up, aims and pulls the trigger. People kill people. and there is no magic way of knowing who is and is not a killer, you can't read my mind any more than I can read yours. I can tell you that I am not crazy, I don't dream of killing anyone. That doesn't mean that if pushed far enough that I wouldn't hit you in the head with a shovel and then use it to bury you. What we need is for parents to start doing their job and teach their children to have manners and respect for other people. Learn to have compassion for each other. And understand that life is precious and not to be taken lightly. Of course that won't happen. If you really want to blame someone for guns. blame the Chinese after all if they had not invented gun powder there would never have been any guns. Right? Look up the words Potato Gun. You can kill a person with one of these things, using nothing more than hair spray or lighter fluid. Heck Indians were killing Indians with bow and arrows and knifes before they ever saw a gun. Again so u understand. Guns do not kill, People kill.

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Dave hartbrkr8285 January 16 2014 at 9:04 AM

Agree with what you said.

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TellMeNo January 16 2014 at 8:25 AM

Anyone who can just pull a gun and kill another person has to be mentally unstable plain and simple. If the states would spend more on mental illness, my guess is that this type of things would happen less. Be it emotionally or self induced with drugs of some sort, I still think the lack of support for mental illness is the real reason.

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gringo284 TellMeNo January 16 2014 at 8:37 AM

Are you really surprised? With all the drugs big pharma is pushing on people? Even something like chantix, a drug to help someone quit smoking is advertised with a warning that side affects include suicidal thoughts or actions. That's more common than you think, and people don't even notice.

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jbhtonto TellMeNo January 16 2014 at 8:38 AM

You win the rationality prize! Guns are NOT the cause of the violence, only a means to it.

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tdeerhunter1987 January 16 2014 at 8:24 AM

How about we actually hold these people accountable for what they've done. We all need to quit blaming things or making excuses .The world has turned from GOD and that's what we need back in this country . Have a nice day.

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kellyfly2344 January 16 2014 at 10:10 AM

Grew up in TX in the 80s........Most boys had a rifle or shotgun in a gun rack in their trucks. Never had any of this random/resentment killing, just a quail or pheasant for dinner.

Guns didn't shoot themselves and boys didn't spend a lot of time playing violent video games.......because they WORKED or devoted a lot of time to sports, 4H, and church.

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agaleati kellyfly2344 January 16 2014 at 10:12 AM

way to go Kelly…… hit it on the nail. Boys got mad and peeled out at the end of the driveway with a few choice words. its about as bad as it got.

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agaleati agaleati January 16 2014 at 10:17 AM

actually you want to hear something funny. While a freshman at Orono High in Maine, I remember getting a new Mossberg for hunting season along with my buddy Kyle. Our Accounting teacher got wind and came out in the parking lot with his Browning and the three of us compared rifles out in the open in the parking lot….. this was 1988. If that were to happen today, all three of us would be gone.

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ugagentorange kellyfly2344 January 16 2014 at 10:13 AM

Well said. Kids used to bring the guns into school for the rifle club, and leave them in the back corner of the room. Cops used to come in and train kids on gun safety. This all stopped in the 90's, and shootings by young adults have gone up exponentially.

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Paul ugagentorange January 16 2014 at 10:24 AM

That was right around the time the violent video games became popular and discipline in the schools was on the decline.

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gunsnnovas January 16 2014 at 7:40 AM

Not enough information to determine anything. Much less the usual pap and crap about gun control. If 20,000 laws haven't made a dent in crime involving guns, how does any rational person think that one more will help?

Worse, of those 20,000 laws, many prescribe mandatory sentences. Yet, the prosecutors refuse to use them. That makes them useful, how?

Look at the useless comments already posted here, where no actual information exists, and ask yourself how any of these incompetents think that their demands or suggestions could possible do anything but muddy the waters?

Example: Iv2wine says " While the NRA and Pro-Gun Control supporters are hurling insults, people are dying."

In actuality, it's the anti-gun faction that has gone on record calling for the deaths of NRA members, or their families. It's also the same brain-dead cretins that think that they should be able to call hunters and gun-owners profane names, and ascribe illegal actions to them without proof. As Forest said, "stupid is as stupid does".

Nobody appears to want a solution. They simply want to insult, profane, and condemn anyone who questions their narrow-minded view.

How about we wait until facts are provided before constructing our sick fantasies. This could have been a robbery gone wrong when the gunman realized that the employee knew him. It could have been a relationship issue gone terribly awry. It could have been the actions of a person under the influence of drugs. It could also have been another "suicide by cop" issue. It could also have been just a random killing spree.

At this point, information is scarce.

While I know that the "instant gratification" generation hates to wait, you'll just have to do so until someone comes forth with the actual events, and reasons.

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Vic gunsnnovas January 16 2014 at 7:47 AM

If you want someone to read your blog keep it simple and capsulized.

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lo colon gunsnnovas January 16 2014 at 7:49 AM

Ya wanna solution. I gotta solution. Sue the gun industry. Require gun owners to have insurance. Require computer chips put in guns programmed solely to that gun owner. Now that's a reasonable start, don't ya think?

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radiantpex lo colon January 16 2014 at 8:11 AM

lo colon = *******

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mike lo colon January 16 2014 at 8:46 AM

sue the gun industry for what???

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Rick January 16 2014 at 7:41 AM

I hate to point out that these kinds of guys are all in their early 20s, local to wherever the attacks happen, bent on killing as many as they can get to, and (generally) killed in the process as if that was a functional aspect of the plan before they went into it. Suicide after making as big a mess as possible. Aurora, Sandy Hook, a variety of mall shoot-ups, this comparatively small incident - all very similar, even if they all can't be as big and terrible as the headline events. I have often wondered what a domestic terror insurgency in this nation might look like as it starts out small and begins to build. Maybe it'd be like this - a variety of troubled stragglers who've been groomed online to reach out and grab their moment of significance before ending their own lives by way of an inevitable police response? Scary stuff if true.

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gadico Rick January 16 2014 at 7:54 AM

That is the absolute best comment I have seen in a long time. It is scary.

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dave1marine January 16 2014 at 10:09 AM

For those that believe that law enforcement didn't have to shoot to kill after this murdering bas***d killed two people. What were they supposed to do, simply call for a cleanup in aisles 4 and 7?

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Paul dave1marine January 16 2014 at 10:31 AM

Lawyers and private for-profit prisions don't like it when cops kill the bad guy.The taxpayers just saved hundreds of thousands of dollars.Thanks to the cops,good shooting.

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FRED January 16 2014 at 7:43 AM

Those that demand we have sensible gun control forget that we already have it and it doesn't work. The next step would be non sensible gun control (eliminate guns) which does not work. Guns are the symptom to a great problem which this country as a whole is in denial. The morality of this country (the ability to choose right from wrong) is so much destroyed that life means nothing at all. When there were no guns,people died at the hands of bow and arrows, knives, rocks, larger sticks, etc. Until you treat the cause of the problem, you will never get guns off the street.

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