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Stores Have Free Rein to Recoup Shoplifting Losses

General View Of A Macy's Store

NEW YORK December 16, 2013 (AP)

Outside the view of paying customers, people accused of shoplifting at Macy's huge flagship store are escorted by security guards to cells in "Room 140," where they can be held for hours, asked to sign an admission of guilt and pay hundreds in fines, sometimes without any conclusive proof they stole anything.

As shoppers jam stores ahead of the December holidays, claims of racial profiling at department stores in New York have helped expose the wide latitude that laws in at least 27 states give retailers to hold and fine shoplifting suspects, even if a person hasn't yet technically stolen anything, is wrongly accused or criminal charges are dropped.

"You must remember, these people are not police officers; they are store employees," said Faruk Usar, the attorney for a 62-year-old Turkish woman who sued Macy's, which some customers say bullied them into paying fines on the spot or harassed them with letters demanding payment. "When they are detained, they are not yet even in a real jail."

Industrywide, more than $12 billion is lost to shoplifting each year. The laws, which vary on strictness and fine amounts, allow stores to try to recoup some losses. Under New York's longstanding law, retailers may collect a penalty of five times the cost of the stolen merchandise, up to $500 per item, plus as much as $1,500 if the merchandise isn't in a condition to be sold. A conviction is not necessary to bring a civil claim.

Some customers say stores have harassed them into signing admissions of guilt in order to turn a profit - not just recoup a loss.

Retailers don't divulge how much money they recoup but use it in part to offset security costs, said Barbara Staib, spokeswoman for the National Association for Shoplifting Prevention. The total is a fraction of what they lose, she said.

"We tend to forget that retailers are the victims of crime when it comes to shoplifting," she said.

But at least nine customers at the Macy's store immortalized in "Miracle on 34th Street" say in lawsuits that the retailer is abusing the law, wrongly targeting minorities and holding customers for hours, years after it settled similar claims brought by the state attorney general by paying a $600,000 fine and changing practices. That agreement expired in 2008.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is investigating the new claims against retailers. Last week, New York state stores agreed to post a customer "bill of rights" on their websites explicitly prohibiting profiling and unreasonable searches.

Usar's client, Ayla Gursoy, was detained in 2010 after she carried two coats in her arms up several flights of stairs in the flagship store, according to her suit. Store security accused Gursoy, who speaks little English, of trying to steal. She was asked to sign a form admitting guilt and pay a fine. She refused, the police were called and she was arrested.

Gursoy and others say they were held for hours in Room 140, a bare room with two small, barred holding cells with wooden benches within the store.

Elina Kazan, a spokeswoman for Cincinnati-based Macy's, said the company's practices prohibit coercion when recovering fines.

"Our policy of exercising our right to pursue a civil recovery payment is consistent with common practice in the retail industry and within the parameters of the law," she said.

Many retailers detain suspected shoplifters, industry experts said, but few have dedicated jail cells and most don't ask for payments on the spot like Macy's.

Most of the accused receive letters in the mail demanding payment from a law firm like the one used by Macy's, Palmer, Reifler & Associates, of Orlando, Fla. That firm also represents Home Depot, Wal-Mart and many other stores and sends out about 115,000 letters per month.

"We are confident in our clients' training processes and procedures for evaluating and investigating theft matters," attorney Natt Reifler said.

Letters sent to Gursoy said that if she didn't pay, she would be sued. One said she owed $400; the next said she owed $675 - the increase unexplained.

"We believe the whole purpose of her detention was to get the signature, to get the payments," Usar said shortly before his client's suit was settled in court Dec. 4. The terms were not disclosed. Her criminal charge was dismissed after no witness could testify.

In San Leandro, Calif., Jimin Chen accused Home Depot in a federal lawsuit of abusing the laws by shaking down customers to make an extra profit.

He said he was stopped in September by a security guard there who falsely accused him of trying to steal work gloves worth $3.99 that he had taken off the shelves and worn to load lumber into his cart. He said he was detained until he signed an admission of guilt.

Later, he started receiving letters demanding money; $350, then $675. Home Depot disputes the claims and has asked for dismissal.

Lawyers say that retailers rarely actually sue for the money, and they often suggest letter recipients don't bother paying because refusing won't affect their credit.

Generally, industry experts say, the laws allowing retailers to hold and fine suspected shoplifters are applied correctly.

"Retailers do a really good job of identifying where actual theft cases have occurred, and intervening and conducting investigations," said Joseph LaRocca, who runs RetaiLPartners, an industry group aimed at building partnerships between retailers and law enforcement. "There are always exceptions, but by and large, there are few mistakes here."

The racial profiling allegations started in New York this fall with a different retailer, Barneys New York, after two black customers said they were stopped while buying expensive merchandise. The retailer has said it does not profile, and neither customer was asked to sign a confession or pay a fine.

But the allegations grew to include Macy's. Among those complaining was Rob Brown of the HBO show "Treme," who said he was stopped after buying a $1,300 Movado watch for his mother this summer.

Brown, 29, said he too was taken to Room 140. There, he said in a federal suit filed by attorney Doug Wigdor, others being held were all "individuals of color." He was released, he said, when people realized he was a celebrity.

Kazan, of Macy's, said she couldn't comment on pending litigation.

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eyedzervit December 17 2013 at 8:52 PM

Unless they are actually being charged with a crime by REAL law enforcement these stores have no right to detain them in Room 140 and/or demand payment. At that point these shoppers should be contacting the police themselves and asking them to intervene citing they're being detained by a private party against their will. Honestly, if I were innocent of the crime and being detained by the store I'd just up and walk out before turning over any money to them.

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mstienlee December 17 2013 at 5:53 PM

Macy's should update their "new" star color in this picture. It should be Communist "RED". If you hate the communist practices that are going to take place with Macy's and maybe with some other stores, then don't shop or go there! Don't support them. You have choices and can boycott them. If you continue to go there but have been warned, you are an idiot!. Simple as that.

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queuedeskimo December 17 2013 at 1:33 PM

I once worked as a district manager in loss prevention.We were never were sued because we always used the 4 w's, what, where, when and who, all based on facts, and no where near guess work and assumptions. If we did not have all of the above, we let them walk. There is always another day. These bozo's are begging for lawsuits, even if the state gives them their official okey dokey. The state isn't the one who is going to be sued. Although they are civilians and not law enforcement, they are inciting stop and detention under civil arrest codes and still violating 4th amendment, even under evidence of "fruit of the poisonous tree". Detention against your will falls into a whole different and more serious category. Maybe laws have changed since I was in loss prevention, but the constitution hasn't.
If they were to stop me, I would be the first to initiate a call to law enforcement....and then my attorney to sue from A to Z.

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tammy1126 December 17 2013 at 1:29 PM

No state, county, city, or privatized laws supersede your constitutional rights. Corporations can make any policy they want but that does not make their policies constitutional. City's, counties, and states can pass any laws they want but again, that does not by default make those laws constitutional. Until and unless they are challenged they will continue to abuse their power. Know your rights, stand up for them, and when needed - fight for them. Knowledge is power, know your rights!

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queuedeskimo December 17 2013 at 1:39 PM

DITTO TAMMY! In these days you need to be wise as a serpent.

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TERRY December 17 2013 at 1:20 PM

so much for inasicent till proven guilty

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rmiller904 December 17 2013 at 1:11 PM

I say if it is real they catch them then they should do anything they want to, beat em up as far as I would care but if accused and really was not even doing anthing wrong then the fight would be on and they would lose

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geocur3971 December 17 2013 at 1:10 PM

Yes indeed. A very simple. very logical, very typical LEGAL extension of 'Stop and Frisk'. And just as racist.

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rxpharmd December 17 2013 at 1:03 PM

If they plan on holding me in "room 140" they better be sure I'm trying to steal something first.

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jragga December 17 2013 at 1:09 PM

if they plan on holding you in room 140, you'd better have stolen something. Else that becomes false imprisonment.

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flyingfortresb17 December 17 2013 at 1:02 PM

If they stop you and they say you have shoplifted and you have a phone., call the police for assistance. If they refuse to let you leave then you can request a report be made for unlawful detention/restraint and kidnapping. I am sure there are statues on the book in every state that can be used against the store employee and the store management. I would never sign anything from one of these stores. They want their money for something you did not do. Don't pay them. If it goes on your credit statement send a letter to the credit companies explaining the problem and ask them to remove the stores comments.

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myraclehof December 17 2013 at 1:01 PM

Does anyone really let themselves get detained? Just tell them to kiss off and leave. Are they going to use force? Not a chance

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