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Spoils of war: Police getting leftover Iraq trucks

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Surplus Armored Trucks

QUEENSBURY, N.Y. (AP) - Coming soon to your local sheriff: 18-ton, armor-protected military fighting vehicles with gun turrets and bulletproof glass that were once the U.S. answer to roadside bombs during the Iraq war.

The hulking vehicles, built for about $500,000 each at the height of the war, are among the biggest pieces of equipment that the Defense Department is giving to law enforcement agencies under a national military surplus program.

For police and sheriff's departments, which have scooped up 165 of the mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicles, or MRAPS, since they became available this summer, the price and the ability to deliver shock and awe while serving warrants or dealing with hostage standoffs was just too good to pass up.

"It's armored. It's heavy. It's intimidating. And it's free," said Albany County Sheriff Craig Apple, among five county sheriff's departments and three other police agencies in New York that have taken delivery of an MRAP.

But the trucks have limits. They are too big to travel on some bridges and roads and have a tendency to be tippy on uneven ground. And then there's some cost of retrofitting them for civilian use and fueling the 36,000-pound behemoths that get about 5 miles to the gallon.

The American Civil Liberties Union is criticizing what it sees as the increasing militarization of the nation's police. ACLU affiliates have been collecting 2012 records to determine the extent of military hardware and tactics acquired by police, planning to issue a report early next year.

"One of our concerns with this is it has a tendency to escalate violence," said ACLU Center for Justice senior counsel Kara Dansky.

An Associated Press investigation of the Defense Department military surplus program this year found that a disproportionate share of the $4.2 billion worth of property distributed since 1990 - everything from blankets to bayonets and Humvees - has been obtained by police and sheriff's departments in rural areas with few officers and little crime.

After the initial 165 of the MRAP trucks were distributed this year, military officials say police have requests in for 731 more, but none are available.

Ohio State University campus police got one, saying they would use it in large-scale emergencies and to provide a police presence on football game days. Others went to police in High Springs, Fla., and the sheriff's office in Dallas County, Texas.

In Boise, Idaho, police reported using their MRAP two weeks ago to serve a warrant, saying they had evidence the suspect might be heavily armed and have explosives. Authorities said they found 100 pounds of bomb-making material and two guns. A second MRAP from nearby Nampa's police department was used to shield officers and neighbors from a possible explosion.

In New York, the Albany County sheriff's department already had four smaller military-surplus Humvees, which have been used for storm evacuations and to pull trees out of roadways. The new MRAP truck will go into service after technicians remove the gun turret and change the paint from military sand to civilian black.

Sheriff Apple rejected the idea that the nation's police forces are becoming too militaristic.

"Nothing could be further from the truth," he said. "Our problem is we have to make sure we are prepared to respond to every type of crisis."

For example, he said, if SWAT teams need to get close to a shooter or get bystanders safely away from one, the MRAP would be the vehicle of choice.

In Warren County, at the southern edge of the Adirondack Mountains, Undersheriff Shawn Lamouree said its MRAP, which can hold six people and reach 65 mph, will have its turret closed up except for a small slot, the only place to fire a gun. Its bulletproof windows don't open. The proposed retrofit, including new seating, loudspeakers and emergency lights, would cost an estimated $70,000. The department has applied for grants.

"We have no plans of mounting a machine gun," he said. "The whole idea is to protect the occupants."

While Warren County's Lamouree acknowledged the MRAP will likely spend most of its time in a heated garage, with "minimal" maintenance costs, it could be used occasionally by the emergency response team, which has used armored vehicles to serve drug warrants.

"We live in the North Country," he said. "It's very common for people to have high-powered hunting rifles."

In one recent incident, a team used its armored military-surplus Humvee to approach a barricaded suspect, similar to a circumstance in which it might use the MRAP.

"We rolled the Humvee in the front yard, gave a couple of commands and he said, 'OK, I'm coming out," said investigator Jeff Gildersleeve. "That's the way we like them to end."

Others in New York that got big armored trucks included sheriff's departments in Jefferson County, Steuben County and Sullivan County, and police in Nassau County, Plattsburgh and Hamburg Village. Police departments statewide have also acquired almost 150 other trucks and Humvees, a dozen of them armored, over the past two years.

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worldoridr November 25 2013 at 1:00 PM

If you need one of these to patrol a football game, it may be time to revamp your sports curriculum.

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goesbetween777 November 25 2013 at 2:14 PM

This Sucks....Poliice with tanks....No Tanks

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wllharrington November 25 2013 at 9:51 AM

One of these would be a godsend for the daily commute.

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Dad November 25 2013 at 9:50 AM

I wonder when Blue Thunder is going to show up.

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goesbetween777 November 25 2013 at 2:15 PM

No Tanks

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adika3z November 25 2013 at 2:16 PM

keep it armor vehicles for good.
dont throw away.
must use it for next war soon someday.

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Ricardo November 25 2013 at 2:23 PM

Love it! Big Brother will be watching you!

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Dickhead November 25 2013 at 9:47 AM

great.about time.those of you pissed off about the police and there new toys just have not given crime enough time to get to you.it will.maybe at the store or mcdonalds or maybe one of your children might find crime first.but it will come be patience and then you will complain about the police needing more to protect you.

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kaboomnks November 25 2013 at 2:30 PM

I can see the headlines now, INDEPEDENCE DAY SAVED!!! "Mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicle instrumental in the crack down on an unauthorized lemonade stand." Law enforcement sources say use of force was justified as the juveniles were observed buying black cats and sparklers at a firecracker stand earlier in the month-long investigation. Parents houses, personal belongings, vehicles, and bank accounts were all siezed by civil forfeiture/ RICO statutes and are soon to be divvied up among the numerous local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies credited with the raid. In accordance with the Patriot Act, all parties involved are being indefinitely detained at Guantanamo Bay without pending charges.

Comming soon to an Independence Day in Amerika near you...

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Terry and Mandy November 25 2013 at 2:33 PM

At least we are bringing these vehicles back to the US instead of leaving them in Iraq to be canobolized by the militants. Usually when the US military pulls out of an engagement everything is left or immobilized. I'm not sure how effective these vehicles are going to be other than provide scare tactics.

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